Droid vs. iPhone: The reviews are in
Motorola and Verizon invited comparisons, and that's what they got
The Droid lands in stores Friday, and on Thursday the heavyweight reviewers — which is to say the Wall Street Journal's Walt Mossberg and the New York Times' David Pogue — weighed in.
Given that Motorola (MOT) and Verizon (VZ) pitched the Droid in its first TV ad as everything Apple's (AAPL) and AT&T's (T) iPhone was not, it was perhaps inevitable that every reviewer so far, including these two, treated its arrival as a grudge match.
Mossberg's review is positive but tepid — especially the video version. He plods through the comparisons item by item like a slightly boring homework assignment. His top-line summary:
"While it has some significant drawbacks, I regard it as a success overall. It's the best super-smart phone Verizon offers, the best Motorola phone I've tested and the best hardware so far to run [Google's (GOOG)] Android. I can recommend the Droid to Verizon loyalists who have lusted for a better smart phone, but don't want to switch networks." (link)
Pogue being Pogue has more fun with the assignment, even running a Twitter contest to come up with a new term for these newfangled gizmos. (He's going with "app phones"; Mossberg calls them "super-smart phones.") Pogue's bottom line:
Since Verizon seems to want a Droid-iPhone faceoff, here it is: the Droid wins on phone network, customizability, GPS navigation, speaker, physical keyboard, removable battery and openness (free operating system, mostly uncensored app store). The iPhone wins on simplicity, refinement, thinness, design, Web browsing, music/video synching with your computer, accessory ecosystem and quality/quantity of the app store." (link)
For a more thorough comparison, written by someone who actually seems to care, check out developer Greg Kumparak's 2,500 word review in TechCrunch. His conclusion: "At this point, I honestly feel that either choice would make any sane person incredibly happy."
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for all of you whose arguments that the iphone is better because it has 93,000 apps, you gotta a few factors you are missing here…first off, Apple's iphones have been around much longer than the Droid…HOWEVER, Apple's iPhone O/S is used solely for the iphone and itouch, and Google's Android O/S is expansive…Google wants their O/S to be available to everyone on every carrier and MORE…
for those of you who claims the iphone is better because they have more apps, maybe you haven't noticed that Google is about take over the world…(I don't agree with Google coming out with a hardware [ie: Nexus One] with their O/S to compete against other phones also with their O/S, but that's another topic)…
the problem is this, Apple's iPhone O/S is restrictive, they are not allowing developers the freedom to, I guess the best word to use, "customize'…Google's Andoid, on the other hand, is open source…
because the Google phone with Andoid is become so dominant right now (with every carrier, and a good percentage of the new phones coming out to be a carrier of the O/S), I'm pretty sure they will reach 93k apps in less time than the iphone…
you have to remember this here, Apple has only ONE phone using their O/S, and it is customizable…and the usage is limited…the truth is, if you're looking for a TOY, you look to an iphone…but if you are really looking for something more serious, you will look to an Android phone…
now I'm not saying that the Droid is a better phone than the iphone, I will, however, say that the Android O/S is a lot more power O/S than the iPhone O/S, which will eventually give an Android phone dominating advantage over the iPhone…remember this, there have only been a few versions of the iPhone O/S, but there are a huge number of Android phones out there…granted the iPhone has a sexy and sleek design, but the problem will always be that you have only one choice, and that is the iPhone…the Droid just happens to be ONE of the latest SO FAR with Android, and believe me, there will be a lot more…unless Apple gives developers an open source O/S, then the iPhone will always be limited…
I have been a loyal iphone addict for 4 years. I also became very dependent on my iphone for just about everything I did. At home or at work, my iphone performed great and truly streamlined my lifestyle. However, I recently had a transition that opened my perspective a bit.
Since I have used the iphone I have dropped it in the toilet once and payed $200 to replace it with a refurb. I dropped the refurb (Which was just as good as my original and ease of transition from old phone to new was awesome) anyway, I dropped it on the driveway and cracked the glass. Luckily I was still able to use it, but it was cracked and it constantly bothered me.
After about 6 months of my cracked iphone I decided to try and replace the glass. I ordered the parts for about $30 and began to operate. As I did so, I broke the LCD. I then ordered an LCD from the same aftermarket company I got the glass from for $50. When I installed it, I realized that it was broken as well. I could not return it.
So I basically broke the phone, but could still access the harddrive to sync. I began using my daughters piece of crap phone and did so for about 4 weeks until I finally decided to either buy another Iphone or look at alternatives.
I also called AT&T to plead with them in selling me another iphone for the discounted "new contract" price. basically telling them that the iphone was really my only incentive for using AT&T at all. Which is the truth. They did not offer me any kind of discount or other possibilities. Their answer….buy another iphone…Like I hadnt thought of that or something.
After a lot of research on all the possibilities, I came down to the Verizon Motorola Droid and the Iphone.
Conclusion: The Iphone is the best device I have ever used. It basically allowed me to organize my life at work and home. But, it is expensive to own on every level. From AT&T phone plans to replacing a broken phone, no one is exempt from paying both companies rates. Regardless of how ridiculous some of the rates and policies are. They got you by the balls and they know it.
I ordered a new motorola droid and it gets here tomorrow. The insurance on the phone, 3G coverage and general streamlined customer service are all things that I now consider to be deal closers. I will give it a try and hopefully I have made the right decision.
I will not ever be an Iphone basher. I plan on buying the new 64GB IPad as soon as its available in April. Apple makes great stuff and will continue to do so. Maybe someday they will buy ATT and take over the world.
I currently have a storm and I am looking to change because it doesnt hold the amount of apps I need. I am looking between droid and Iphone I already have an ipod touch and I use that for my music and my games. I need a phone for the apps pertaining to emails, calendars, reminders, locks on certain items and not just the whole phone. you know functional and productive apps i cld care less about games. so i am trying to do all my research.
I don't know why you guys are trying to say iPhone is a "work" phone and Driod is a "play phone". Both phones can work and play.
Personally, I have an iPhone and I owned one from the day the store opened to sell 'em to now (I have the 3GS, don't worry).
I have absolutely no complaints with my iPhone at all. I get amazing reception, service, call quality and everything.
If you want a phone that will get the job done and you can use it to play or work the iPhone is better.
have decided to go with the Verizon Droid by Motorola due to a few practical reasons (both phones are awesome in there own rights) Number one reason – Verizon in my area outperforms AT&T in coverage and in customer service. Number two – I can get a warranty on the Droid and cannot get one on the iPhone through at&t ( I do not want to spend $700 if I drop my phone and I am rough on phones). Number three – I work in the home automation field and I can develop my own apps with Droid. I have had conversations with people from the iPhone religion and they are fanatics, but I'm pretty sure there no passages in your Apple bible that you can use to convert me based on these three facts.
the first smart phone i have ever owned was a blackberry pearl (by motorola. i then upgraded and got the iphone 3g. i cannot tell you how much of a superior technology the iphone posesses.
but one thing people do not realize, is the amazingly unfortunate insurance service.
my i phone was recently stolen, after two years of crack and heroin-like addiction, and now i am i phone-less.
after freaking out and having a cardiac arrest after the newly discovered loss, i wen tinto a frantic search for the phone. i couldnt find it
now i have a 6 month 100 dollar a month service plan for a phone that is going to cost me 500 dollars to replace.
this made me realize that the iphone is not worth the hassle: plain and simple.
ps. i called cingular to retrieve my voicemail and the lady helping me was completely uneducated and deleted my vmail account on accident. obviously i was upset, and shew figured out she had made a mistake and hung up the phone on me.
thank you att for giving me the best phone i nthe world, with the shittiest pricing, service, and insurance.
ex ped: Why did you call Cingular about your iPhone?
everyone who says the screen broke on the droid probly dropped it or something. of course its gonna break!!!!!! ok and what are phones for?? to make calls so would you rather get the best which is verizon service or the worst at&t. idk i'm just saying. and who cares who has more apps of course droid isn't gonna have 93,000 apps it just came out!!
I like how most people who are so Iphone crazy (in a rude way) have jailbroken phones. You really shouldn't have to break your contract and pretty much hack the phone so that you can customize it
the driod may be better than the iphone first generation but you cant beat the iphone 3gs go apple!!!! and at&t!!!!
does the droid have a built in ipod? you people who have the droid are just jealous. verizon cant beat att or apple but good attempt!
Like it or not people buy the iphone for the purpose to be a play phone…if only bussiness people bought the iphone it would not succeed
Keep in mind that the iPhone was not meant for customizability, it was strictly meant to be a business phone…and the only reason that there is an App. Store to buy games with is because people asked for one. The Droid is a play phone, the iPhone is a work phone, so what is there to fight over when you have two completely different types of phones?
Let me ask you this, how many pics and videos could you send directly to another phone without using email when the iPhone was first out… I was sending pics right out of the box with my Droid… give Droid a little time there will be no comparison, remember iPhone has a few years on the Droid.
i currently own a iphone which i have jailbroken myslef. i love my iphone but my sis n law got a droid for xmas and it is everything i have and then some. it is so much faster than an iphone and it also has little things that make a big difference. for example the camera, the map, and multi apps. also my jailbroken phone takes forever to load anything customizable. i plan on switching to the droid this month. im not writing off the iphone.. like i said i have loved it since day one, but apple defintely needs to get on board and speed up their processor and upgrade their functions. and if they would only allow you to customize it without jailbreaking it, then no one would jailbreak it! listen up apple!
Motorola Droid is the Iphone killer – unless apps are really your thing. Over christmas I played with my brothers IPhone for 3 days straight, I was impressed with the Iphone and would have probably gone that route if it were not for AT&T's horrid network (no wonder they have roll over minutes!) I therefore went the Droid route and I am glad I did! I say that the Droid is the IPhone killer because:
1. The droid has a bigger and brighter screen (which is important given the size of the screens on these devices)
2. The batteries are easily replaceable on the Droid and is about $40, which is good given that the batteries don't last that long right out of the box, will probably need to be replaced after a year (how much does it cost to send a Iphone to Apple to have its battery replaced??)
3. The droid comes with an awesome Navigation, voice guided turn by turn that you don't have to pay for. (Iphone??) The NAV is so good on the Droid that you just tell it where you want to go by talking to it!
4. Google Search by voice is awesome as well, I push the mic icon and say "Corvette Forum.com" and when it comes up on Google I click the link and I am there, how cool is that? (and IPhone??)
5. Speaker phone is also awesome on the Droid, I put my Mother on the speaker phone on my Brothers IPhone and had a hard time hearing her over the kids and the T.V. etc. in the house (a strong speaker phone is important for calls and Pandora radio!!)
Near as I can tell the only thing that Iphone may have over the Droid is looks and APPS most you will never use though and maybe Itunes?
If the important attributes listed above and a good network are not that important to you and you must surf while talking then the IPhone is for you.
I have an iPhone and personally dislike it. I've gone through 3 of these things already. they bog down worse than a never reinstalled windows xp machine. no flash capability. crappy AT&T service and the programs lag a lot when you are trying to change applications.
I'm glad my wife and I got to experience the hype of an iPhone but it comes down to this.
apple/mac users are usually the ones who want to do simple things inside of their closed off environment.
Linux people want the granularity of open source and control over all aspects of their experience.
Microsoft… most widely used among consumers and takes a little piece of both.
either way, when droid offers a phone that doesn't have a physical keyboard I'll make the switch.
Reality check. I love Apple products, but AT&T is just a terrible service provider.
I do a lot of hiking in rural areas and in those situations I need a phone with unbelievable service in areas where I could possibly get into a dangerous situation. I would rather signal reliability than the ability to download a version of Guitar Hero on my phone.
People say that the Droid is for kids, well most people I see with an iPhone are under the age of 25.
The battle will always rage on, but the advantages of Droid are service reliability, more optimum browsing capabilities, and an open source system.
As far as I'm concerned the iPod was the greatest invention ever conceived by Apple. It's intuitive interface has allowed all ages of people to properly store their music for refined enjoyment.
Droid is comparable to the iPhone…to me nothing is comparable to the iPod. Embrace the technology wars!!!
iPhone with 93K+ apps would have to be the better pic. Droid also seems more targeted towards teens. I can run several different types of stock trading platforms on the iPhone.
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Keep in mind that the offer was made with the first generation iPhone, which was NOTHING compared to what it is now. I don't blame them for turning it down.
"I used to have an iphone then I got a droid, the screen went out after 2 days. I got another one which took a lot of time and arguing and then it went black too. I never dropped the phones or got them wet. Nothing like that ever happened. I do not recomend the droid to anyone. Now I have the iPhone 3gs and I am very pleased"
Can anyone say liar! I mean the phone came out like a month before this person wrote their comment. I highly doubt they were able to go through TWO droids and swith to at&t for the iphone in the matter of one month. Part of their story doesn't add up if it took sooooo long to get the second one.
I have had the droid since the day it came out and I think its fantastic! It has all of the functionality that the IPhone has and more. The only drawback I can truly see at this point ar the lack of "fun" apps in the app store. I don't see this as a big problem though, becuase at some point, this is bound to change! Die hard IPhone fans just can't admit that they have competition out there, and that there may be a better phone than the IPhone…
The droid is lighting fast. I dont use the keyboard but the droid is lighting fast. take that for what its worth.
I use my iPhone for just about everything (calendar, email, blah blah blah) but also because it's a really souped-up iPod. In other words, it's great for work, but it's also lots of FUN to use.
My point: missing here is any reference to gaming. Does the iPhone beat the Droid and Android "by default" because the Droid and Android do not have any games available? It seems the Droid is limited for App storage. Could this mean that gaming on the Droid is basically not possible?
Can you play games on the Droid like you can on the iPhone? There are many games available for the iPhone that totally rock.
Hmmmm…is this an apple web page. The phones are alot more closer then all these "iphone" owners think. Knowing both phones, I can say that both have their own specialties. Web, and music goes to the iphone. Hardware, messaging and functionality go to the droid. However, everyones preference is different. But keep in mind this, these are PHONES. They are meant to call and receive calls. Regardless of phone, AT&T has always had the worse reception. Best thing is to research both phones…..
I've owned the G1, Mytouch, and DROID… Now, I have the IPHONE 3GS and overall, it's a better phone.. style, web-browsing, apps, games, music, etc.. I'm tired of the sliding keyboard because it just makes your phone heavier. No Zack Morris here!! When it comes to the on-screen keyboard, IPHONE WINS!!!
ps.. IPhone 4G
The iphone is way better. My sister has one and we were comparing. iPhone is much faster and looks better. The only plus side to the droid is the slide out qwerty. Other than that its very overated. iphone is always going to be better. Nobody should even try to match up with it. Especially motorolla. They make razors and that's all they will ever be popular for
I used to have an iphone then I got a droid, the screen went out after 2 days. I got another one which took a lot of time and arguing and then it went black too. I never dropped the phones or got them wet. Nothing like that ever happened. I do not recomend the droid to anyone. Now I have the iPhone 3gs and I am very pleased
David Pogue summed it up pretty well.
It's basically down to call/network quality, physical design, and web browsing.
Keyboard? Personally, don't need one. Can type better on the iPhone's touch screen. But then, everyone is different.
Multitasking?–90% of people don't care. I know I don't.
Battery switchout?–Big deal. How many do you go through in two years before upgrading the handset?
GPS?–I have a Garmin already.
Uncensored apps?—Again, who cares? Not many.
I don't watch videos or listen to a lot of music on my iPhone, so those features are irrelevant to me. The iPhone's superior Browser tilts it for me, as it's essential to my business. So I put up with ATT's inferior network.
Basicially, it's Verizon's network vs. Apple's handset.
Pick the one that works best for your needs.
Anyone who says any other smartphone on the market or soon to be on the market is better than the iPhone obviously doesn't own one of their own. iPhone users should rejoice dye to the fact they've owned the most advanced phone in the past 2 years and probably will for the next 2 years, and if you own a jailbroken phone threre is NOTHING that the droid can do that an iPhone can't
brother got the motorola droid a couple weeks ago. very nice. i have an iphone 3g. his phone is a better "phone". video, flash, micro sd, ect. my iphone , in my opinion, just has more experience behind it. as in they have had time to refine the phone. my iphone is the toughest little plastic thing i own. also, his phone is much faster. if we are both sitting in a 3g full bar "spot" his browser produces the exact same results faster. he can also download right to his phone. i have to pay for it through itunes or trick itunes to get it. either way i have to be home to do it. i love my iphone but when the time comes it will be verizon again for me. at&t wont even allow americans to tether their phone because they haven't figured a way to lock it down and charge for it. maybe the iphone is still the best, i dont know. but the fact that verizon offers a phone that is close enough for the average and has better basic cell phone features on a far better network is gonna change things around. in my opinion.
My fiance and I just got Droids. However, I always wanted an iPhone because I have only had Apple computers my entire 'puting life, and I of course have an iPod.
Fiance likes Verizon so he wanted to get me on the family plan. The Droid is cool; very nice. But it is NO IPHONE. Read the reviews (besides this one). NOBODY who knows their a** has said it is better than the iPhone. Nothing can beat the simplicity and cleanness of the OS or the design, nor the total superiority of Apple products in general. Call me a fanboy (or fangirl to be accurate!), but iPhones rock! I wish I had one!
But I must admit the Droid is the best non-Apple smartphone out there. I really wanted Apple to work something out with Verizon. I am leaving AT&T for Verizon, although AT&T has been fine for me. But nationwide, Verizon is definitely stronger. I've had both a couple of times each – depends on where you live. Overall Verizon is better, so APPLE – you missed a big opportunity! But they ain't hurting! MACs RULE!!! : )
My ex-husband was a Mac systems administrator for a big publishing co for a number of years. He also worked in the PC world and knew the difference. He taught me well! Mac haters – get over yourselves. You can walk into an Apple store and get help so easily… who else has a genius bar????? 'Nuff said. !!!!!
Droid is horrible – screen broke within three days and Motorola won't warranty. Terrible product and company
Google and apple are both huge. My iPhone is amazing but I am sure this new phone is amazing as well. Honestly I have jailbroken my phone and it is so easy to jailbreak that they should throw that into the review as a consideration and then watch the gap shrink between the two phones and see wich is actually better.
I've had the MyTouch 3g since it came out….and I've heard the Droid does everything the MyTouch does except faster and better.
I love the commercials because its the exact same thing my wife says when she's messing around on my phone, "My phone can't do this"….she has an iPhone. Personally, I think they're both great phones, but its laughable when iPhone followers think everythings a copy of their awesome phone….come on people, iPhone (Apple) ripped off more technology than it innovated….so get off the high horse. Android will only get bigger and better and will surely surpass all competitors because any company can use it and develop with it.
Apple will always have their place though, IMO. Many people love Apple's simplicity and structure…..I personally want diversity and strong apps….I can download 5-6 browsers for my Android right now and choose which one I like the most (I use Opera when on Wifi, the native browser and Dolphin browser for most everything else)…you can't do that on iPhone, but for many people that's Okay.
Hmmm…. do you remember all those phones that verizon released that they marketed as "iPhone Killers?" The Instinct, Dare, BB Storm, and practically every other touch screen phone that came to verizon. People should stop marketing these as iPhone killers. Apple has the lead by so much all the other people can do is try. The droid looks sweet and is definitely the top choice for Verizon phones. But the problem I have with all you guys saying oh boy open source software! All you need to do is "jail break" your iPhone. With it jail broken you can customize everything on it. You can also get and make new and different apps not approved by the apple app store. So if open source is so important to you just jail break it. Seriously I love the Iphone you go ahead and call me a fanboy whatever. But I may have to pick up one of these droids.
iPhones are better. I'm using mine right now to look at this and I can't believe verizon has to come up with a new phone just to stay on top and to think they're better. Verizon just loves to be the best and likes competition. If there wasn't even an iPhone in the first place, then there most likely wouldn't be a droid or it would be different than it is. The competition between services will never stop and in the future there will always be a "better" phone than the other. People just need to stop expecting so much and just stick with what they have. iPhones all the waaaay!!!!!!!!
i was one of those people who waited in line to pay $600 for a 4gig fist gen iPhone, i had one ever since and upgraded each time a new version become available. Apple makes some of the best products available, i have three of their computers and i absolutely loved my iPhone. Recently i dropped and broke my iPhone, and because i was not elligible for upgrade, they wanted $600. This along with AT&T's spotty service sent me over to VZW. I have had my droid for 2 weeks now, and i can honestly say there is not one feature i am missing. I have actually gained some features like the turn by turn nav, the flash for cam, the internet is very similar, but the real supprise for me was that this phone is much faster switching between apps and doing different things. I can run pandora, send texts and be on facebook all at once, my iPhone forced me to quit before doing anything. I love apple and i love the iPhone, but the droid in my oppinion was the first phone to ever get this close,and from my experience it is EXTREMELY close. The iPhone is def. sexier, but the droid is heavy, is made out of metal and is very very solid. Also, the speaker on the droid blows apple's out of the water.
I have had the new iPhone for a year, and just got a droid as well. I use my phones heavily, I am a programmer, and I can say without hesitation that the Droid beats the iPhone in absolutely every way. Sure there are a few bugs (just like the iPhone). But everything you want is there. Android is true open development and allows people to develop apps to replace almost all function on the phone (sms, home screen).
I am convinced anyone posting saying that the iPhone is easily superior to the Droid is just a fanboy. Droid is faster, crisper, open and on a much more reliable, and faster network. All the common apps are there and it supports multi-touch (which will be implemented in Android start of 2010).
I can't say the Droid itself is the end of the iPhone, but being the first Android phone with worthwhile hardware, it has definitely brought on the beginning of the end for the iPhone. Unless Apple comes out with something open (yeah right), then Android will take over the mobile market like Google took over the search market. Better products always win in the end.
"This is fast…this is really fast…holy **** this is fast!" Actual quote from an iphone owner browsing over the network with my brand new Droid.
Sorry folks in my previous post (above) was in reference to the glaring DROID DON'T DO INTERNET while making calls, retrieve email, get pictures, NOTHING.
So if you are in a call and your iPhone rival (because unfortunately that's what it's coming to)
sends you material to reference. Your widget friendly DROID DOES SIMPLY BECOMES A boost pre-pay..
I have heard idiots defending a phone that multi-tasks when not in a call but can't mulitask phone and Internet, email or pull down pictures. That's iPhone 200 level (iPhone 101 didn't either).
But as stated above that's true multitasking.
We no longer stare at walls while in calls we actually get things done!!
Let me start this by saying Droid seems like a nice phone – One that needs to stop trying to be something it will never be…
You can't emulate everything another phone does and seriously think that you are a game changer from the slab design to the material used.
The glass screen sets the droid apart from other iphone clones (no offense, but when you look just like a predecessor and have the same features, material) well that's just what it is.
Verizon made commercials like this thing was a beast..
When it was all said and done, the improvements were so trivial that it was like a bad joke..
Widgets? Dual app running? (See Palm Pre) GPS was nice if your car doesn't already have it.. It's damn near standard and Google of all companies is creating the exact same platform for Apple so that's a wash.
This ANTI-APPLE Establishment is a passionate bunch. You guys hail meaningless improvements like a blurry 5 mega-pixel camera that every review reports is inferior.
Or how about that big pretty screen with all that resolution?
Rule #1 the bigger the screen the more resolution it takes to achieve the same result. Once again a wash.
Out of 101,000 apps a percentage are garbage. Out of 10,000 apps- same soup, just reheated..
So where is the game changer?
Every review reports slower browser speed, more difficulty downloading, inferior internal memory (divide 256 into 32,000) and Apple's ecosystem destroys the newcomer.
So verizon launches and this tough guy UFC looking DROID DOES commercial- listing iphone shortcomings?
Well this is huge. No downplaying this. Your technologically advanced mini iphone becomes a simple brick phone when it's actually doing it's primary function MAKING CALLS!!
The Droid should have just been a Droid.
I got my Motorola Droid 2 days ago. It has some flaws but overal it is pretty awesome. They should release one without a slide-out keyboard.
look back to the 256 mb on board after an over haul of memory and music downloads the phones processing time is going to be horrid on the other hand ,the iphone uses its strict 16 and 32 g that its on board not a separate memory , if Moto was to change there on board as the same as apples there phone would be thicker! come on guys really u know apple is just going to come out with a new iphone this june and make this moto look like a black berry storm hahah, all it is, a matter of time my friends
OPEN SOURCE = PAYMENT TO PROGRAMMER
I think that comment is spot on.
As a developer, I really like the concept of Android, and I hate the Apple App store concept. The Apple App store forces the developer to essentially build Apple's business reputation if they do good work, but wear the development costs if they do poor work. Android lets the developer control their own business.
However…
As a developer, I really HATE the Android development environment, and I hate it so much I break out into a cold sweat when I open it up and start using it. the Apple development environment is, by contrast, a joy to be involved with.
So I suspect that I will continue to develop "in house" applications for the iPhone (the only way to refuse to participate in the App store) while I wait for Google to learn how to build a useful development environment.
My advice to google would be (that is joke: Google are perfect, nobody can tell the folks at google anything) to develop their own language, and develop their own development environment and then make that open source.
That is not going to happen, because the corporate culture simply cannot grasp the idea of devoting a huge amount of resources to sponsor an open source environment. It is the digital equivalent of communism.
But if Google are serious about becoming a software company instead of an advertising company with good software, they need to develop their own language. If they want to continue to be the friendly face of the open source community, they are going to need to develop this language for everyone, and SHARE it.
Bottom line: Google and Android are facing an ideological paradox that is all tied up with this myth of Google being about everyone's freedom. Google can spout their freedom mantra to the masses as much as they want. If they want to compete in the development environment, Apple have twenty years head start, and Google are facing a huge investment commitment that defies their open source ideology.
It is exactly the same problem as that which faces all the open source Unix software, and has done for decades now.
Hey Tony Smit, I totally with you about your favourite analog handset. I used to have a Motorola Startac back in the day. I worked for a large telecom doing customer service and we used to joke that "You'll take my Startac, when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!"
OPEN SOURCE = PAYMENT TO PROGRAMMER. Check OVI – SYMBIAN, or PCLINUX-OS.
OPERA (closed source) is available on most good op systems. Perhaps soon to be on Android.
I have hade apples iPhone since it came out and I have seen it's changes within the years and it's been better and better. I don't mind compitition but I can't say this is compitition. The iPhone will continue to evolve Im shur the droid is a great phone but Im happy with apple and hating the iPhone is jest dumd enjoy tech and that's it.
The reason that no on is commenting on the 256mb of storage onboard is that it comes with 16GB of removable memory. Enough to store music, apps, or whatever you need.
Don't think for a minute that Google's services are really free. They are collecting all kinds of marketing data on their users, which they will use to make money.
Also, open source does not mean free as in no cost. A lot of open source is free, but these are two totally different concepts.
I have been a software developer for 15 years, and open source is the biggest exploit of software developers I have ever seen. Companies, like Google, entice developers to create software for free, so their platform will become more popular. They can then make more money from it. In return the developers get none of this revenue.
Open source is all about creating commodity markets so compaies, like Google, can make more money. These are companies, they exist to make money. Don't think for a minute they forgot about that.
It is very sad to see developers be exploited like this because most of them (including me) really love what they do.
At least Microsoft and Apple would like developers to get paid for their work. Those "great" open source companies just want to keep all the money for themselves.
Now, I am not saying there should be no free software. If you want to release your software for free you should, but don't be fooled by the open source movement's message, it is a big smoke screen.
Search for "Joel Spolsky Strategy Letter V" for a good read on the economics of open source.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned the fact that the DROID only has 256MB of on-board memory?? One of the main advantages of the iPhone is that it can hold tons of music, pictures, and apps. I have not used the DROID, but the storage limitation alone is enough for me to dismiss the DROID as a pathetic attempt by Verizon/Motorola/Google to gain some of the iPhone market. FAIL.
i love how all the comparisons on browser speed show the iphone being quicker with the wi-fi turned on. network to network is the true test.
Bah. I want my Nokia 252 phone to work again, but it was an analog phone and the cellular networks no longer support it. I really liked the larger size and ease of handling it, and the display characters are larger than today's tiny phones have.
i have an iphone and i really do think its going to be a tough one my friend works for verizon and told me a lot about the droid it seems really good comp for the iphone, even if moto comes out with another droid after this one, we all know apple has its little surprises so come on now apple does make its own computers and software and their stock has just skyrocketed lately and these components will lead to something even better but we will have to wait till this summer
These reviews reflects what each individual thought, observed or experience from each phone. The true benchmark will be the actual consumers. Give it time and we will see. Will it be a hit or a miss?.
As for being an "iphone killer"? This is what I have to say. Iphone is Iphone, the rest are smartphones.
I agree Chad, the iPhone will always have the best web browser that will probably never support flash…just sayin'
Have to agree w /u Chad. Being a fan of what works the best for YOUR lifestyle and makes life easier, is the only true measurement.IPhone is an amazing product that surely fits ME and makes MY life easier(not to mention it is entertaining). Browser works better in my opinion than WindowsMobile did. And as for ATT, i must be the luckiest man on earth, cuz I never have dropped calls, and reception is perfect(even when my friends on VZ have none). Not a "fanboy"(what does that even mean?), just giving you FACTS about how the Iphone works for ME. Everyone should kill this silly debate and just use the phone that suits your purposes the best. Dont drag one down, and raise one up based on pure opinion….you know what they say about opinions…everyone has one.
"if anyone claims he can browse the web on a 400px screen better than on a 850px wide screen, i call him a liar or at least an idiot if not a fan boy in disguise."
Are you seriously that narrow minded that you think pixel density is the only factor? I'm guessing you would also say that a 6 megapixel camera can't take better photos than a 12 megapixel camera cause the 12 will always show more detail. Its just not true! Compare a 6 megapixel digital SLR with a 12 megapixel point and shoot. I currently use a 6 megapixel SLR and it takes way better photos than any 12 megapixel point and shoot I have ever seen.
Bottom line is, pixel density is one of many many factors that make up the overall experience. Too many people worry about spec sheet comparisons and forget about real life comparisons.
"Does anyone actually believe Apple is sitting on its laurels?"
I'm sure they're not. The question is, is Motorola and/or the rest of the Android Universe?
If Apple stays true to form, they'll have the new iPhone 3GSX out in June. June is a long time away. By the time June rolls around, the iPhone hardware may be playing catch-up with phones from Motorola, Samsung, and HTC. We might even see a new version of the Android OS by then…
the droid is going to be a great phone, but the iphone will still be the one to beat. As for those saying that verizon made a bad decision for passing on the iphone, it was actually a good decision. Apple wanted all the profits on the sales and the service. verizon said no so apple had to go elsewhere and change their demands.
Android OS is going to be huge… Trust me Google has already made a computer OS… They want to free up the world of all this locking down.
Apple Fans wake up… This is what you want. You think you are happy because you taste a little freedom in 3rd party because you have been locked down for so many years by the verizons, sprints, Microsofts.
Trust me Google is OPENSOURCE.
Mac, will only play that hat for a small portion of their business.
GOOGLE = TRUE OPENSOURCE.
I will create a UI that looks just like the IPHONE put it on my Droid.
You won't notice the difference. I will make free copies of your precious apps…BY the way my screen will be bigger and clearly awhile i am on the best network.
I think people don't realize what Google is! What they stand for? How they work?
This Droid by itself offers way more than an Iphone. I love the Iphone it is a great phone. But there are some drawbacks.
For instance if a 3rd party wants to create an app for the UI of the Iphone it first has to go through Apple.
Google on the other hand does not care what UI you make, create, develope.
Pretty soon you start seeing a lot of cool stuff on this phone. For instance a web browers that is better, Audio, UI candy.
P.s. played with the phone… IT IS QUICKER than the Iphone suprised that wasn't in the review. Quicker network, quicker phone.
I must be an idiot then. I would like to see you surf the net from the couch with your wide screen on your lap.
If I am a fan of anything, it's a fan of amazing products.
The iphone is the best electronic device I have ever purchased and it keeps getting better.
iPhone fans should not simply dismiss the Droid. It will be competitive. It has Google support some killer free apps like Voice and turn-by-turn navigation. I also heard that my personal favorite app NeuroMobile will be available on the Droid soon. I may not switch but I can see why others might.
"I agree everything but the web browsing there. I hate using Safari on my iPhone, it completely sucks. If web browsing is better on the iPhone I would hate to see the Droid, it must be pitiful."
You're out of your mind. the iphone has the best browser than any mobile and desktop platform.
I love my Mac, but for the apps I use most, I abandoned Apple long ago in favor of Google. I prefer Google's apps for email, calendar, contacts, & photos over Apple's, and they're all free. I also use Google Documents more than MS Office on my Mac. And I use Google Maps all the time.. I'm one of those on the Verizon network who would never switch to AT&T just to get an iPhone.. People make such a huge deal about having 100,000 apps available for the iPhone. Isn't the most important feature of any smart phone still the phone? And if you have a lousy network like AT&T, your phone is very limited. As for the apps, I already use Google's apps 99% of the time, and for that last 1%, I don't really care whether Android ONLY has 10,000 apps to choose from. So for me at least, the Droid is MUCH more attractive the the iPhone, in addition to being on a MUCH better network.
Wow, completly sucks? Do you know of a phone with a better browser? I don't. Please share your massive insight. What browsers are you using for comparrison? The iPhone is the first browser that I find highly usable.
The comparison has never been between iPhone and Droid/Android. Verizon would like you to think that, but it's an obfuscation. It's between the Droid/Android and all the Windows Mobile (or Windows Phone if you must) devices. iPhone is an integrated standalone device. The Droid and Android are nothing less than the death knell for Windows Mobile.
"iPhone killer"?
You're kidding, right? Just to be considered "iPhone equal" would be huge.
Which it isn't, of course. At best, it's "potentially iPhone equal". And even then, that's this season's iPhone. Does anyone actually believe Apple is sitting on its laurels?
Puh-lease!
REALLY fortunate, that BOTH will have their work cut out to win our Hearts, Minds, and most importantly, our WALLETS!! DON'T see VZ getting the iPhone for a long time; Jobs doesn't like it when VZ made fun of his baby. STILL waiting to see how this plays out for another 6 months or so…..
hoe ridiculous are those "two heavyweight" reviews, they are both inconclusive, equivocal and sometimes pathetic.
if anyone claims he can browse the web on a 400px screen better than on a 850px wide screen, i call him a liar or at least an idiot if not a fan boy in disguise.
I switched from the iPhone to the HTC Magic (first 3g android phone i found) and have never looked back. Not too sure about Motorola as their phones seem to be very hit or miss… and I could care less about my loyalty to either Apple/Google. Although I am an Apple user, I like my Android phone better.
As a new iPhone user, key to my decision to go with the new 3GS rather than wait for the Droid was the "quality/quantity of the app store". I think the android network will eventually catch up, but right now the iPhone clearly has the broader market base and is attracting more app development.
"The iPhone wins on simplicity, refinement, thinness, design, Web browsing…"
I agree everything but the web browsing there. I hate using Safari on my iPhone, it completely sucks. If web browsing is better on the iPhone I would hate to see the Droid, it must be pitiful.
Other than that the only thing I think the Droid will have is the Verizon network. AT&T has the worst coverage ever, my phone is constantly loosing signal in the most populated areas where as my wife's verizone cell never drops.
Here's the thing about the iPhone. It soon will be able to customize, the camera apps are great and allow low light photo taking, and if there's ever a problem Apple fixes it through updates. You can do so much with the iPhone it can take the place of your laptop. As far as Google goes, Google needs to take a look at their own service. The Google maps and directions are fantastic on the iPhone though. The biggest problem with the iPhone is AT&T, but Verison is buying up these other providers and are stretching too far. There is going to be huge problems for Verison as a result. People I know are unhappy about it, and one case a friends bill doubled last month. They are going to lose customers if this keeps happening. Thank you for reading my thoughts and opinions.
Still waiting for Tech Crunch's, "Crunch Pad"? Funny how they think they know how these companies should run their business yet the one and only product they make still can't find it's way out of a paper bag…
Here we go again. The next iPhone killer? This is getting tiresome and why aren't people pointing blame at Verizon's CEO? He's whining that Apple can come to us if they want… Apple did come to you first you moron. And you turned them away and led them straight to AT&T. It was YOUR call. I'm really really surprised the board hasn't bounced someone like that who made one of the worse decisions in the history of wireless phones. Please tell me a worse decision?
and now, we get to hear Verizon say iPhone killer this and iPhone killer that. And in the same breath, we want the iPhone here on Verizon.
Interest but I'm still sold on iPhone. Droid is too much of a "brick" in my opinion. The screen being shown is too cluttered even when it's beside the iPhone with all APPS showing.
What a waste of time, both reviews are ill-informative and have no conclusion too what phone is the best. Crap give me the driod to test and i can tell u the phone sucks or not
The Droid does a great job of tackling a lot of the iPhone's no-brainer omissions, and doing it one better in a few categories.
Android isn't /quite/ there yet for business use, but it is rapidly getting there, and will certainly be more open than the iPhone OS.
The only real gripe I've heard about the Droid is that the camera is awful — but the good news is that it might be a software problem which could be fixed by an update.
Finally, I find Pogue's conclusions amusing, as he basically says that the Droid wins on pragmatic features like hardware, while the iPhone wins on cutesy stuff like 'refinement' — I think that says a lot about how productivity-minded users will view these two phones.




Well to me I don't like Verizon and I know this has nothing to do with the phones because I think the Iphone or the Droid would be great. But Where I am located the Verizon service is sometimes always jacked. One day out of now where no one can send/receive any messages or calls. My bf has at&t and he never has that problem. And sometimes my phone will say that my message did send out but for some reason the receiver never gets it. So, I think everyone should worry more about the phone service first than the actual phone.