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Is Steve Jobs more popular than Jesus?


Apple's CEO tops two polls in one week. Will no one rid us of these meddlesome lists?

Jobs. Photo: Apple Inc.

Photo: Apple Inc.

Last Thursday, Oct. 8, an Agenda Setters panel named Steve Jobs the most influential individual in the global technology industry, ahead of Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web, and Barack Obama, President of the United States.

Four days later, a survey of 1,000 tweens and teens ages 12 to 17 picked Steve Jobs as the celebrity entrepreneur they admired most, ahead of Oprah Winfrey, Mark Zuckerberg and the Olsen twins.

Is Apple's (AAPL) CEO really more influential than Obama and more popular than Oprah, as headline writers invariably put it?

Of course not.

These lists are confections, artifacts of organizations trying to drum up publicity for themselves — in this case, a U.K.-based CBS Interactive subsidiary called Silicon.com and Junior Achievement, an American institution that's been preparing students for the business world for more than 90 years.

I know something about how such lists are created, having had a hand for many years in selecting TIME's Man of the Year and putting together the magazine's Most Influential lists. One criterion for making that list was whether a particular celebrity would agree to come to the TIME 100 party. Steve Jobs never showed up, but he's appeared on the "Builders and Titans" list many times. See, for example, here.

To keep list-making manageable, you have to limit both the group that makes the decision and the pool of nominees. Silicon.com used a panel of 12 who started with a list of 20 names each. Junior Achievement asked its survey group — chosen by Opinion Research Corp. — to vote on a pre-selected list of brand-building celebrity entrepreneurs that included Tony Hawk, Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, Kimora Lee Simmons and, once again, Mark Zuckerberg.

Source: Google Trends

Source: Google Insights

It would be impossible to run a comprehensive poll to determine who is truly the most popular or influential person in the world at any particular time. The closest thing we have today is probably Google Insights, which can tell you whose name among a list of up to five is being searched for most frequently over time.

If it's any comfort to Christians, Steve Jobs is barely a blip in a Google Insights bake-off with Jesus, although when you run the exercise using the search term "Jesus Christ," there have been a few moments over the years when Steve Jobs' name came up more frequently.

If Google had been around when John Lennon said what he said about the Beatles, maybe the Vatican wouldn't have had to accept his apology.

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I don't usually write on blogs but had to on yours. You have a very unique writing style. A lot of people don't have that touch, they just drone on and on in the most boring way. But not you – thanks! I really enjoy sites about religion, they give me a lot to think about. Thanks again!

Posted By Julie Fox: October 25, 2009 1:32 AM

Who's Jesus?

Posted By Beltway Greg, Washington, DC: October 17, 2009 10:55 PM

I thought the article was good for a chuckle.. I think some people took this way to seriously lol

Posted By Rory winnipeg: October 15, 2009 7:58 PM

"This article is sacrilegious."

OK.

But we don't live in theocracies, do we?

You know, the "rule of law"?

The responses on this blog make me think the US has a lot in common with Afghanistan. Lots of folks hanging out in the woods with they guns and they bibles, swearing murder upon the heretic and the pagan interloper in their midst.

Jesus may have been all that or he might not, but under the rule law he was just another lump of arm meat with an opinion. Or, he 'might' have been.

Or, he might have been a marketing stunt dreamed up to sell pepper flavoured wine to Persians, that somehow got out of control and turned into an enduring cult. It happened with Coke.

We don't know.

But we are allowed to speculate on the next messiah, surely?

I'd go with the Divine Being's church any day. I say bless the digital flock and take their cash and save the world. Follow Steve!

I am all for that. I reckon JC would have been, too, if he were a modern man. He would have bought Apple stock, for sure. He would have hung out with the Divine Being, and he definitely would have encouraged Apple to publish the iPhone iCal API for developers.

Gosh, he might have even blessed the iPhone, it is so pure.

Steve did, and he is only a minor deity.

Imagine the limits if the iPhone became the Jesus phone!

That should be the advertising campaign, in a nutshell:

"Steve Jobs uses one, and Jesus would too. iPhone: The tools of messiahs."

Posted By cynik, Switzerland: October 15, 2009 7:56 PM

For all of those offended by the article, how do you feel knowing that millions of people have never even heard of Jesus? The popularity of a religious figure is completely irrelevant and should not be a cause of concern to you.

Posted By Manuel Muñoz, Monterrey, Mexico: October 15, 2009 2:33 PM

Jesus is the most popular person ever imagined in the world's history because before time began, Jesus is the basis of standards for comparing "so called popular people" in this world. He is King, HE is GOD…

Posted By Myko Catindig, Santa Rosa City, Laguna: October 15, 2009 12:05 PM

So SAD, bad for you FORTUNE.

Posted By Bernie Arriet, El Paso, Tx: October 15, 2009 9:44 AM

Im in no way religious but I have to say, in all of the crap that can be found on the internet, this piece and its very concept truly is total and utter BS.
Steve Jobs make TOYS, that what he does. Little, popular, shiny toys.
The depth of American materialism and consumerism has, in this writers opinion, dropped to a new found depth.

Posted By Jason, Paris, France (NON USA believe it of not.. there are countries outside of your borders): October 15, 2009 4:46 AM

This is possibly the worst excuse of a story I have ever read. As a fellow journalist, I believe this is a poor excuse for an article. Comparing popularity of Steve Jobs to Jesus Christ based on google insights is absurd. So what if at some miniscule portion of time 'Steve Jobs' has been searched more than 'Jesus Christ'. You said yourself, Jobs doesn't even come close in comparison to searches for 'Jesus'. Furthermore Jesus' popularity has survived over 2,000 years. Steve Jobs will be lucky if his popularity lasts 20.

Posted By Samantha, Southaven, MS: October 14, 2009 11:33 PM

Its quite obvious you re running out of creative ideas for articles.

Posted By c: October 14, 2009 11:27 PM

At least Steve Jobs is real….

Posted By Jerry, St. Louis, MO: October 14, 2009 10:40 PM

Mmm … sacrilicious.

Posted By Homer Simpson, Springfield, CA: October 14, 2009 4:33 PM

DeWitt's headline speaks volumes. Dumb, dumb, d
umb!!!

Posted By Bobby Best, Houston, TX: October 14, 2009 3:10 PM

I don't believe Jesus was fictional. I believe he walked the earth just as we do. I don't believe in his rhetoric. There is no god and those who line up to conform with the believers and wasting a lot of time and money that could have been applied to more useful endeavors.

Posted By DR, Columbus, OH: October 14, 2009 2:45 PM

No one compares to Jesus. No man is worthy to have his name put in the same sentence and we wonder why people get so PRIDEFUL!

Posted By A.O., NYC, NY: October 14, 2009 2:29 PM

Do a google search for steve jobs and then another for jesus christ. See what happens? jesus christ might as well be santa claus.

Posted By matt, knoxville, tn: October 14, 2009 2:29 PM

This article is sacrilegious and shame on CNNMoney for posting this.

Posted By Sam, FL: October 14, 2009 2:26 PM

Put it to the test. Ask 1000 random kids if they'd rather give up their Bible or their iPod for a week.

Posted By JM, St. Louis MO: October 14, 2009 2:09 PM

I am sure even Steve Jobs would be offended by the title of this article. Another example of trash journalism. I will no longer buy or read Fortune Magazine.

Posted By JB NYC: October 14, 2009 1:46 PM

"Will no one rid us of these meddlesome lists?"

Then why in God's name (no pun intended) would you write about it!?!? This is the prime example of a "journalist", with a deadline, and nothing to write about.
Yes, it is that obvious…

Posted By SteveS. Ocala FL: October 14, 2009 1:43 PM

You may pray to Steve Jobs in my Name, if you wish.

Posted By God, heavan: October 14, 2009 1:42 PM

Who knows, but he IS the devil.

Posted By Brian Atlanta, GA: October 14, 2009 1:32 PM

The title, article and author are almost as ignorant as the postings referring to Jesus Christ as "fictional" and a "character". Between Obama and authors like Elmer-DeWitt there is no need to worry about Jobs versus "Jesus" the world will be ending soon and we will all get to meet that "character" who is going ot judge us all.

Posted By TFR New York, NY: October 14, 2009 1:12 PM

Reminds me of an episode of The West Wing:

President Bartlet: "You know that line you're not supposed to cross with the President?"
C.J.: "I'm coming up on it?"
President Bartlet: "No, no. Look behind you."

There's a line in dealing with God and the use of His name. Look behind you, Mr. Elmer-DeWitt.

And, if any readers are confused, yes, I'm referring to blasphemy: "taking the Lord's name in vain" (that means unnecessarily and/or disrespectfully), and yes, it is a sin, and yes, I know that I too am a sinner.

So, why do I bring it up?
1) Because the only hope that we have is to repent (turn away from sin) and ask God to forgive us for our sinfulness. "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."–1 John 1:9

2) I am responsible for whether or not I tell him that he needs to do.

So now, I've done what I'm supposed to do. The ball's in your court, PED.

P.S. I like your coverage of Apple, when it concerns the technology and the business, which is why I'm here to begin with.

=Gandalf=

Posted By Gandalf, Bloomington, IN: October 14, 2009 1:04 PM

very bad taste in title. there is a way of doing things and then there is a way. come on now………..

Posted By Anonymous: October 14, 2009 12:16 PM

"Philip Elmer-DeWitt" more like "Philip Elmer-DUMBWITT"

Posted By zacko, genie, RI: October 14, 2009 11:56 AM

I second Lee Winfield's comment on this subject. This article is just a pathetic attempt by Fortune to generate "buzz" with a headline. Don't be so lazy, Fortune.

Posted By Roger, Austin, Texas: October 14, 2009 11:52 AM

What a completely asinine question. Just shows how little journalists know about anything outside of their area of expertise. Fortune has dropped to a new low.

Posted By Lee Winfield, Scottsdale Arizona: October 14, 2009 11:35 AM

JC is pre-mediaeval religious fantasy character as stated by others.

SJ has done factual stuff and does not require his work to be based on "faith".

In most other contries people may know an Apple product over JC.

Posted By Kris Twin Cities, MN: October 14, 2009 11:25 AM

jesus has been around forever and will be around long after any of us die.only us who know him will be around in the next life

Posted By david louisville ky: October 14, 2009 11:18 AM

"First step to rid of such lists is for alleged journalist to stop talking about them"

Exactly.

How stupid does a journalist need to be to write an article saying that popularity comparisons are meaningless – and then throwing in one of his own.

If they're meaningless, stop doing it – and stop publicizing meaningless things. Can't you find anything intelligent to write about?

Posted By Joe, Houston, TX: October 14, 2009 10:58 AM

I found this article offensive and sacriligious. Would you have dared to post it if it compared Jobs to Mohammed? I will cancel my subscription to the paper edition.

Posted By John, New Canaan CT: October 14, 2009 10:53 AM

Comapring a mortal to Jesus of Nazareth is Blasphemy

Posted By Vidya, FL: October 14, 2009 10:52 AM

I think it's ridiculous that a fictional character is being used as a reference. The "Jesus" character in "The Bible" is as imaginary as "Little Red Riding Hood", yet no one compares anyone to her popularity!

Posted By Scott, Boston, MA: October 14, 2009 10:42 AM

so far I don't think so, he aint Jesus and nowhere near! well, he has a large influence till this current day of tech age. hope his health gets better twitter

Posted By James L, Perth, Australia: October 14, 2009 10:35 AM

We know Steve Jobs and we know what his accomplishments are because we can see them with our own eyes. It's harder to accept the stories and legends about JC because there's no evidence and we can't see them with our own eyes.

Posted By Diane, Austin, Texas: October 14, 2009 10:32 AM

Unless he rises from the grave and walks on water…..he is not Jesus!

Posted By Gary Ervin Greensburg, Kentucky: October 14, 2009 10:09 AM

the list the author is referring to is who is the most influential global technology leader NOT who is the most influential person in general.

Logically, I would have to say Jobs *has* been the most influential person in this particular field for at least the past 10 years.

Posted By Alex, New York, NY: October 14, 2009 9:46 AM

Mac news from outside the reality field

Posted By Asher Pat, London: October 14, 2009 9:45 AM

I want the five minutes of my life back that i just spent reading this article. What a waste of time…

Posted By Anonymous, IL: October 14, 2009 9:45 AM

I definetly thinks he is more popular than the false prophet Mohammed.

Posted By Satan and the Thirteen Virgins, West Palm Beach, FL: October 14, 2009 9:22 AM

Ask people 30, 50, 100, 500 , 1000 years ago who was most popular. I don't think any of them knew Jobs but many knew Jesus and still do..This is the most stupid question I have ever seen.

Posted By RJ, Atlanta, Ga: October 14, 2009 9:11 AM

Why not—He is Live, we see him and live with his creations—and has not send any Tsunamies that kill !
Peter

Posted By Peter NY ,NY: October 14, 2009 9:08 AM

Absolutely No Way! We have always heard of "Oh! Jesus Christ!" but anyone heard of Oh! Steve Jobs? Steve is a million miles behind JC.

Posted By Lim Boon Chuan, Singapore, Singapore: October 14, 2009 9:04 AM

@Johnny Rocket: Jesus is not a pre-medieval religous fantasy character. As the first google search from Wikipedia points out, He is as historical as say Alexander (the great). The difference of opinion is in whether he is "divine". Also Jesus' greatest miracle is not that he changed water into wine, but that he changed me an irreverent atheist, to a beleiver. Because it's not just about today and now – but for your best life – after death. Contrast that with Jobs gift to me: I have an unusable iphoto library with one year's precious moments and an equally unusable time machine backup of that.

Posted By Hananiel, Cincinnati: October 14, 2009 8:52 AM

Few know jobs, many know Jesus
few years and new technologies later, Jobs would be long forgotten.
But it's Amazing isn't it, 2000 years later peoples lives are still made better by Jesus :)

Posted By AmitLondon: October 14, 2009 8:46 AM

Thank you for lowering the collective intellect by using your position of reporter to highlight nonsense like this. I suggest that you take a walk through Yellowstone to contemplate your contribution to our planet.

Posted By Panos, Brussels, Belgium: October 14, 2009 8:38 AM

But is Steve Jobs more popular than the Beatles? Is there something about 'Apple' that makes this so?

Posted By David Emery, Reston VA: October 14, 2009 8:34 AM

Of course he is, He is a God on his own right, look at all the followers worshipping him. He is better than Jesus because people can see him to believe him. He talks every one around him listens and donates money to his cause. What else do you need? And he has several lives that is more than god!

Posted By Alex. T.O.: October 14, 2009 8:25 AM

This is a wrong headed question. It's not an issue of popularity – it's an issue of impact. On that score it is seriously questionable whether Jobs has impacted the world for the better unless you believe there is salvation in technology.
Technology also has its dark side, the extent of which we will likely only discover after the passing of time. One thing is certain, technology has certainly made us feel like gods.

Posted By andy de jong, grand haven, mi: October 14, 2009 8:13 AM

Well, one could argue that Jobs has been behind some of the technological innovations that have shaped the century. And whether he is bigger than some pre-mediaeval religious fantasy character is pretty irrelevant, after all, Jobs, like Ghandi, doesn't require an act of faith to see he exists.

Here's some stuff he's done:
1 – Help invent the PC UI
2 – Help invent the graphic user interface
3 – Help turn computers into machines for the rest of us
4 – Help make digital video a mainstay – remember the world before iMovie for this?
5 – Help reinvent media sales with iTunes
6 – Help mass market acceptance of digital music with iPod
7 – Force change in the mobile/smartphone market
8 – Help make desktop publishing happen (which also means help pizza leaflets become more prevalent than we ever thought possible.

And while it's true none of these rank as high as turning water into wine, they've all caused considerable change, and he's recognised by so many people for this…

Posted By Jonny Rocket, London, UK: October 14, 2009 8:04 AM

Thanks for the insider info on popularity surveys, Philip! Hardly rocket science, eh?
SJ has a few of things in common with JC: adoring disciples, crucifying anti-Apple sentiment, and reborn with a new liver.

Live long and prosper Mr Jobs!

Posted By Enzo, Suva, FIJI: October 14, 2009 7:59 AM

First step to rid of such lists is for alleged journalist to stop talking about them

Posted By zippy the pinhead, NJ: October 14, 2009 7:15 AM
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Philip Elmer-DeWitt

Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Steve Jobs, goes the old joke at Apple, is surrounded by a reality distortion field; get too close and you might believe what he's saying. Apple has made believers out of millions of customers — and made a lot of investors rich — but Elmer-DeWitt believes that an ounce of skepticism never hurts when writing about the company. He should know. He's been covering Apple – and watching Steve Jobs operate — since 1982.
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