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	<title>Comments on: Apple fact check: 50,000 iPhone apps? &#8211; Update 2</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew, Seattle, WA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/10/apple-fact-check-50000-iphone-apps/#comment-25522</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew, Seattle, WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Psycho Apple Users-



Calm down. I&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;re the same people who fact-check the hell outta anything that Apple didn&#039;t create. This was a perfectly valid item to point out: 3000 less than the heralded 50000 would make it about 6% overstated. 1 or 2% would be understandable for rounding&#039;s sake but what Apple&#039;s mouthpiece basically did is lie to the public - one cannot just assume they are &quot;counting&quot; the magical realm of &quot;international&quot; app stores, and if they did you know it was for the express purpose of making the 50k claim earlier than before.



I guess it comes back to fact-checking in the end, if you can&#039;t check Apple&#039;s claims - then why would anyone believe them or take offense that someone is critical? I guess the same people who think that a credit card means they have extra cash to spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Psycho Apple Users-</p>
<p>Calm down. I&#039;m pretty sure you&#039;re the same people who fact-check the hell outta anything that Apple didn&#039;t create. This was a perfectly valid item to point out: 3000 less than the heralded 50000 would make it about 6% overstated. 1 or 2% would be understandable for rounding&#039;s sake but what Apple&#039;s mouthpiece basically did is lie to the public &#8211; one cannot just assume they are &#034;counting&#034; the magical realm of &#034;international&#034; app stores, and if they did you know it was for the express purpose of making the 50k claim earlier than before.</p>
<p>I guess it comes back to fact-checking in the end, if you can&#039;t check Apple&#039;s claims &#8211; then why would anyone believe them or take offense that someone is critical? I guess the same people who think that a credit card means they have extra cash to spend.</p>
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		<title>By: alex kynikos, chicago il</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/10/apple-fact-check-50000-iphone-apps/#comment-25521</link>
		<dc:creator>alex kynikos, chicago il</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip...they were just doing what auto dealers do. Puffery. But look, they have done it phil. they actually hit 50K



Total Active Apps: 50,176

Total Inactive Apps: 3,738

Total Apps Seen: 53,914

Unique App Publishers: 13,724



last updated: 2009-06-16 02:55:07 -0700 PDT



ex ped: Thanks for the update!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip&#8230;they were just doing what auto dealers do. Puffery. But look, they have done it phil. they actually hit 50K</p>
<p>Total Active Apps: 50,176</p>
<p>Total Inactive Apps: 3,738</p>
<p>Total Apps Seen: 53,914</p>
<p>Unique App Publishers: 13,724</p>
<p>last updated: 2009-06-16 02:55:07 -0700 PDT</p>
<p>ex ped: Thanks for the update!</p>
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		<title>By: Vince, Port Charlotte, FL</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/10/apple-fact-check-50000-iphone-apps/#comment-25520</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince, Port Charlotte, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50,000 or 1 most of the apps on iTunes suck and have little or no value. So I wouldn&#039;t boast too much. Besides the apps provided with the iPhone do 90% of what you need anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50,000 or 1 most of the apps on iTunes suck and have little or no value. So I wouldn&#039;t boast too much. Besides the apps provided with the iPhone do 90% of what you need anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Hickox, Boston, MA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/10/apple-fact-check-50000-iphone-apps/#comment-25519</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Hickox, Boston, MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One does not have to be an Apple fiend to see that Philip Elmer-DeWitt is a pinhead, wasting our and his time on a meaningless rant.



ex ped: I believe most microcephalics would find that offensive, Patrick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One does not have to be an Apple fiend to see that Philip Elmer-DeWitt is a pinhead, wasting our and his time on a meaningless rant.</p>
<p>ex ped: I believe most microcephalics would find that offensive, Patrick.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker, St. George, Utah</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/10/apple-fact-check-50000-iphone-apps/#comment-25518</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker, St. George, Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares how many apps?  99% of them are totally useless time wasting nonsense.  How many apps does the average hard working person use in a year: 5? 10? 20?

Just like everything else about Apple their stuff is toys for children to play with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares how many apps?  99% of them are totally useless time wasting nonsense.  How many apps does the average hard working person use in a year: 5? 10? 20?</p>
<p>Just like everything else about Apple their stuff is toys for children to play with.</p>
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		<title>By: yaxzone, Austin, Texas</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/10/apple-fact-check-50000-iphone-apps/#comment-25517</link>
		<dc:creator>yaxzone, Austin, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on everyone, give this guy a break, he is on a big story... A lot of &quot;tech journalists&quot; has to increase his ratings by finding negative about this fruit company.



Anyway, I just read another story that went like this &quot;Apple did not announce a single thing that another carrier or handset maker hasn&#039;t done before&quot;. Are these &quot;tech journalists&quot; for real? I have not seen apps like the one Airstrip Technologies showed anywhere else. I think that is cool and innovative no meter what these monkey &quot;tech journalists&quot; say.



Peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on everyone, give this guy a break, he is on a big story&#8230; A lot of &#034;tech journalists&#034; has to increase his ratings by finding negative about this fruit company.</p>
<p>Anyway, I just read another story that went like this &#034;Apple did not announce a single thing that another carrier or handset maker hasn&#039;t done before&#034;. Are these &#034;tech journalists&#034; for real? I have not seen apps like the one Airstrip Technologies showed anywhere else. I think that is cool and innovative no meter what these monkey &#034;tech journalists&#034; say.</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Marsden, San Jose, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marsden, San Jose, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Mr. Elmer-DeTwitt.



You really need to understand the difference between a US-centric marketplace and a global marketplace. Apple was only quoting international features in the keynote, so it should not have been a surprise that they quoted international app store numbers. If you go directly to 148apps, they make it &lt;b&gt;very clear&lt;/b&gt; that they are only calculating the US store. Get your facts together next time.



Your assessment that some of the apps are international versions is a no brainer. How&#039;d you come up with that one? As are apps that only run in the UK (like BBC World News), or all of the Japanese only Manga apps. There are literally thousands of these apps. Not just the duplicate apps you discussed.



I know &lt;b&gt; for a fact &lt;/b&gt; that Apple was above 50k on Monday. You&#039;re just pissed off that you didn&#039;t break the obvious story. And yes, it was obvious. Anybody can count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Mr. Elmer-DeTwitt.</p>
<p>You really need to understand the difference between a US-centric marketplace and a global marketplace. Apple was only quoting international features in the keynote, so it should not have been a surprise that they quoted international app store numbers. If you go directly to 148apps, they make it <b>very clear</b> that they are only calculating the US store. Get your facts together next time.</p>
<p>Your assessment that some of the apps are international versions is a no brainer. How&#039;d you come up with that one? As are apps that only run in the UK (like BBC World News), or all of the Japanese only Manga apps. There are literally thousands of these apps. Not just the duplicate apps you discussed.</p>
<p>I know <b> for a fact </b> that Apple was above 50k on Monday. You&#039;re just pissed off that you didn&#039;t break the obvious story. And yes, it was obvious. Anybody can count.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve, Yakima, Washington</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/06/10/apple-fact-check-50000-iphone-apps/#comment-25515</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve, Yakima, Washington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember one of my journalism students writing an article on a local company in South Carolina that announced in a meeting for investors that it had 19 million dollars in sales for the last quarter.  The true number, when one read into the number, as the precision journalism class was teaching, and as our State newspaper reporter was presenting to my class, was USD$ 18,880,005 dollars in sales.  This same discussion arose, and the reporter in my class said, &quot;precision does not remove the possibility of accepting numbers that are rounded, massaged, or even tweeked, as long as the spirit of the numbers tell the story to be told.&quot;  (Direct quote from my notes I now use when teaching precision journalism)



In other words, a major corporation does business on such huge scales, that if Microsoft announced 10 million Vista sales, and it is 9,900,000, the gist of the story remains the same.



Now, this is a blog, where the story is often in the non-story, but it is generally a better written blog so there is no reason for this to really be a subject up for discussion.  A student of language would note that the claim made, in the venue it was made, was that Apple sold a whole bunch of apps and beats the stuffing out of the next stores down the list.



I would note that when Microsoft uses installed user base to predict game sales on Windows and Xbox compared to its gaming platform competitors, despite a significant portion of that installed user base being corporate machines that will never have a game purchased for them, few journalists even note the discrepancy in what really is a glaring error (at least Sony would think so).  Likewise, when Intel was stuck on its megahertz myth marketing, few questioned the bigger the number the faster the processor, despite the most powerful processors measured in terms of data movement mostly having slower clock speeds.  These were places precision of this sort was called for, but was not applied by most journalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember one of my journalism students writing an article on a local company in South Carolina that announced in a meeting for investors that it had 19 million dollars in sales for the last quarter.  The true number, when one read into the number, as the precision journalism class was teaching, and as our State newspaper reporter was presenting to my class, was USD$ 18,880,005 dollars in sales.  This same discussion arose, and the reporter in my class said, &#034;precision does not remove the possibility of accepting numbers that are rounded, massaged, or even tweeked, as long as the spirit of the numbers tell the story to be told.&#034;  (Direct quote from my notes I now use when teaching precision journalism)</p>
<p>In other words, a major corporation does business on such huge scales, that if Microsoft announced 10 million Vista sales, and it is 9,900,000, the gist of the story remains the same.</p>
<p>Now, this is a blog, where the story is often in the non-story, but it is generally a better written blog so there is no reason for this to really be a subject up for discussion.  A student of language would note that the claim made, in the venue it was made, was that Apple sold a whole bunch of apps and beats the stuffing out of the next stores down the list.</p>
<p>I would note that when Microsoft uses installed user base to predict game sales on Windows and Xbox compared to its gaming platform competitors, despite a significant portion of that installed user base being corporate machines that will never have a game purchased for them, few journalists even note the discrepancy in what really is a glaring error (at least Sony would think so).  Likewise, when Intel was stuck on its megahertz myth marketing, few questioned the bigger the number the faster the processor, despite the most powerful processors measured in terms of data movement mostly having slower clock speeds.  These were places precision of this sort was called for, but was not applied by most journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom, London UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom, London UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It certainly could be the case that there are apps in overseas apps stores that are not in the U.S. app store.  For quite a while there was an app called &quot;National Rail&quot; (which allowed access to UK train schedules) which was only available in the UK app store (I think it may have had something to do with licensing of timetables?).  Couldn&#039;t get the app in the U.S.  Didn&#039;t even come up in the list.  It has only just recently become available through the U.S. store.   So, perhaps there were many other overseas apps as well, that didn&#039;t come up in the U.S. store.  Could Apple have been referring to those?



ex ped: Yes. That&#039;s the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It certainly could be the case that there are apps in overseas apps stores that are not in the U.S. app store.  For quite a while there was an app called &#034;National Rail&#034; (which allowed access to UK train schedules) which was only available in the UK app store (I think it may have had something to do with licensing of timetables?).  Couldn&#039;t get the app in the U.S.  Didn&#039;t even come up in the list.  It has only just recently become available through the U.S. store.   So, perhaps there were many other overseas apps as well, that didn&#039;t come up in the U.S. store.  Could Apple have been referring to those?</p>
<p>ex ped: Yes. That&#039;s the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe, Anytown USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doe, Anytown USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe you actually *updated* this article, especially after all the negative comments! Really? REALLY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t believe you actually *updated* this article, especially after all the negative comments! Really? REALLY?</p>
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