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	<title>Comments on: Palm Pre set to upstage Apple iPhone on June 6</title>
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		<title>By: G-Dog SLC, UT</title>
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		<dc:creator>G-Dog SLC, UT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, we should know that WinMo has applications to do almost everything that the iPhone does.  The difference is that the iPhone does these things better and with far more stability.  Handango has thousands of apps for WinMo phones, but the price is prohibitive in many cases ($25 for a cell phone app?!?!?!?!) and, despite their attempts to check compatibility, more times than not the program will not work properly or will crash randomly.  You have to sync it to your computer to install, and, as mentioned earlier, SC and AS aren&#039;t exactly world-beating (although I HATE iTUNES as well...).  iPhones are DEFINITELY not perfect, but, overall and considering the alternative, it is currently the best.



If the Pre can come with something to challenge this conception, I will buy one as soon as the system isn&#039;t linked with Sprint anymore (I think we can all agree that Sprint Nextel should go the GM route and give up...).



In addition, the OS on the Pre is WebOS, new from the ground-up.  Word is that it is what iPhone OS should have been from the beginning.



The point is I haven&#039;t synced my iPhone for months, but I haven&#039;t missed anything because of it, because I can get whatever I want online.



Also, yes, the Fuze does have superior screen resolution, but the phone is also very slow and laggy (read any review you like to get a second opinion).  The glacial movements of these &quot;HD&quot; screens won&#039;t be overcome by ANY phone until manufacturers decide to pay the extra $0.50/phone for newer ARM licenses and bulk the power up, or add additional chips for each high power requirement...which would kill the battery.  Give and take.



Anyway, the iPhone&#039;s screen is gorgeous for a cell phone.  This comes from someone who has owned an 8525, Exec (640x480), Pantech Duo, Blackjack II, and an HP 6515 (PPC 03 Second Edition).  I currently own a Dash (wow, what garbage, but it is company-paid) and an iPhone.  I have used Crackberries for previous jobs.  Even with it&#039;s shortcomings, I won&#039;t convert from the iphone for some time to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, we should know that WinMo has applications to do almost everything that the iPhone does.  The difference is that the iPhone does these things better and with far more stability.  Handango has thousands of apps for WinMo phones, but the price is prohibitive in many cases ($25 for a cell phone app?!?!?!?!) and, despite their attempts to check compatibility, more times than not the program will not work properly or will crash randomly.  You have to sync it to your computer to install, and, as mentioned earlier, SC and AS aren&#039;t exactly world-beating (although I HATE iTUNES as well&#8230;).  iPhones are DEFINITELY not perfect, but, overall and considering the alternative, it is currently the best.</p>
<p>If the Pre can come with something to challenge this conception, I will buy one as soon as the system isn&#039;t linked with Sprint anymore (I think we can all agree that Sprint Nextel should go the GM route and give up&#8230;).</p>
<p>In addition, the OS on the Pre is WebOS, new from the ground-up.  Word is that it is what iPhone OS should have been from the beginning.</p>
<p>The point is I haven&#039;t synced my iPhone for months, but I haven&#039;t missed anything because of it, because I can get whatever I want online.</p>
<p>Also, yes, the Fuze does have superior screen resolution, but the phone is also very slow and laggy (read any review you like to get a second opinion).  The glacial movements of these &#034;HD&#034; screens won&#039;t be overcome by ANY phone until manufacturers decide to pay the extra $0.50/phone for newer ARM licenses and bulk the power up, or add additional chips for each high power requirement&#8230;which would kill the battery.  Give and take.</p>
<p>Anyway, the iPhone&#039;s screen is gorgeous for a cell phone.  This comes from someone who has owned an 8525, Exec (640&#215;480), Pantech Duo, Blackjack II, and an HP 6515 (PPC 03 Second Edition).  I currently own a Dash (wow, what garbage, but it is company-paid) and an iPhone.  I have used Crackberries for previous jobs.  Even with it&#039;s shortcomings, I won&#039;t convert from the iphone for some time to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick, Newtown Square, PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick, Newtown Square, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 16:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the comments below, I hope you all realize that the Pre is NOT running WinMo.  It is running a brand new operating system, webOS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the comments below, I hope you all realize that the Pre is NOT running WinMo.  It is running a brand new operating system, webOS.</p>
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		<title>By: Big D, Boston, MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big D, Boston, MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 20:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad they stole the technology. Oh, and Sprint? No thanks. Garbage network. The Sprint/Nextel merger was the worst of both worlds coming together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad they stole the technology. Oh, and Sprint? No thanks. Garbage network. The Sprint/Nextel merger was the worst of both worlds coming together.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic, Denver, CO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic, Denver, CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 21:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I manage a team that does software testing and support for winmo devices.  I own an Iphone for personal use and several winmo ppc&#039;s from multiple vendors.



MS Active Sync and Sync center are both disasters. Sync center being the greater offender, both drop connections randomly and partnerships are regulalry lost.  The relationship between the devices and the my doc&#039;s folder requires users to have separate partnerships for separate user logons which would  be fine if AS or SC supported more than two partnerships per device.  Frequent hard resets are par for the course and data loss is so common that we had to write replication into our software that is absurdly redundant and a serious drain on system resources.



I was sad to see that palm went with winmo, I was hoping for some real competition for my Iphone so I could get off of AT&amp;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I manage a team that does software testing and support for winmo devices.  I own an Iphone for personal use and several winmo ppc&#039;s from multiple vendors.</p>
<p>MS Active Sync and Sync center are both disasters. Sync center being the greater offender, both drop connections randomly and partnerships are regulalry lost.  The relationship between the devices and the my doc&#039;s folder requires users to have separate partnerships for separate user logons which would  be fine if AS or SC supported more than two partnerships per device.  Frequent hard resets are par for the course and data loss is so common that we had to write replication into our software that is absurdly redundant and a serious drain on system resources.</p>
<p>I was sad to see that palm went with winmo, I was hoping for some real competition for my Iphone so I could get off of AT&amp;T.</p>
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		<title>By: San Francisco CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>San Francisco CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks like a great bit of kit. May get one when it comes out. Still love my iphone for now :D



&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fastvision.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like a great bit of kit. May get one when it comes out. Still love my iphone for now <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fastvision.com" rel="nofollow">Jim</a></p>
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		<title>By: lenny, san francisco, ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>lenny, san francisco, ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can tell, handset insurance is not available for an iPhone. If you lose or break it before your 2 year contract is up, are you stuck paying full retail to replace it?



I pay the extra $4 a month for insurance. When the screen of my Touch Pro got smashed to bits I paid $50 to get a new phone sent to me overnight.



You may not want to pay extra for insurance, but I like to at least have that option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can tell, handset insurance is not available for an iPhone. If you lose or break it before your 2 year contract is up, are you stuck paying full retail to replace it?</p>
<p>I pay the extra $4 a month for insurance. When the screen of my Touch Pro got smashed to bits I paid $50 to get a new phone sent to me overnight.</p>
<p>You may not want to pay extra for insurance, but I like to at least have that option.</p>
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		<title>By: scott,nashville,tn</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott,nashville,tn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 03:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not an Apple fan at all or Windows either. I love unix and linux, but Apple&#039;s OSX redoes the usual linux file system in an odd and bad way, putting directories and files in weird places. There are other problems with Apples OS too.



I tried the Iphone last year, and did not like it. The onscreen keyboard was iffy and hard to type accurately on. So, I need a better keyboard or an additional keyboard like the PRE has. I&#039;d also like a larger screen, 4-1/2-5 inches. This would help with all the features and especially with the squished on screen keyboard.



Additionally, I want a PDA that you can write program for in perl, php, C, or whatever I choose. The phone also must be capable of handling java applets because my stock acct program and others requires this, though I don&#039;t like java personally.



Finally, the phone should have a corrective lens like old VHS cameras use to have. That way we could adjust the screen so that we could see the screen display clearly without having to wear glasses or contact lenses.



If someone makes this for less than $300, I&#039;ll be the first in line to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not an Apple fan at all or Windows either. I love unix and linux, but Apple&#039;s OSX redoes the usual linux file system in an odd and bad way, putting directories and files in weird places. There are other problems with Apples OS too.</p>
<p>I tried the Iphone last year, and did not like it. The onscreen keyboard was iffy and hard to type accurately on. So, I need a better keyboard or an additional keyboard like the PRE has. I&#039;d also like a larger screen, 4-1/2-5 inches. This would help with all the features and especially with the squished on screen keyboard.</p>
<p>Additionally, I want a PDA that you can write program for in perl, php, C, or whatever I choose. The phone also must be capable of handling java applets because my stock acct program and others requires this, though I don&#039;t like java personally.</p>
<p>Finally, the phone should have a corrective lens like old VHS cameras use to have. That way we could adjust the screen so that we could see the screen display clearly without having to wear glasses or contact lenses.</p>
<p>If someone makes this for less than $300, I&#039;ll be the first in line to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Atlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>folks what you see in iPhone/iPod touch is a shell built on OS X(stripped down version). most of the phones which have WinMO don&#039;t have the shell built or properly implemented. It is not MS responsibility, it is responsibility of the Phone manufacture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>folks what you see in iPhone/iPod touch is a shell built on OS X(stripped down version). most of the phones which have WinMO don&#039;t have the shell built or properly implemented. It is not MS responsibility, it is responsibility of the Phone manufacture.</p>
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		<title>By: Gern Blanston, Redmond, WA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gern Blanston, Redmond, WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, you must be stoned to the bejeezus.  Nobody outside of Bill Gates or Ballmer thinks WinMo is anything but a big giant Baby Ruth in the pool of smartphone platforms. Whatever you&#039;re smoking, I want some of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, you must be stoned to the bejeezus.  Nobody outside of Bill Gates or Ballmer thinks WinMo is anything but a big giant Baby Ruth in the pool of smartphone platforms. Whatever you&#039;re smoking, I want some of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan, Orangeburg, SC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan, Orangeburg, SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 04:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurray for WinMO! Screen shots for that analyzer are not very impressive, however, because of the poor graphics compared to the iPhone. And I did not find a diff. eq. solver on handango. In fact, there were very few titles under math or under computer science. Whatever plotter (not just solver) there is under WinMo, however, it&#039;s very unlikely that the zeros of a function, its derivative, and its integral could be found without a manual because of the missing GUI.



The question must be answered: if WinMO 2003 is so powerful, why didn&#039;t developers flock to it in droves? Capability means nothing if it&#039;s not exploited. Having 25,000 apps is measurable progress. Arguing capability for an OS that&#039;s never used that capability means nothing. Software offerings are paltry under every mobile OS except Apple. The newest development for the iPhone OS is to use it as an interface to devices, like that one that will measure blood sugar. Is WinMO ahead here too? Then where are its products?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurray for WinMO! Screen shots for that analyzer are not very impressive, however, because of the poor graphics compared to the iPhone. And I did not find a diff. eq. solver on handango. In fact, there were very few titles under math or under computer science. Whatever plotter (not just solver) there is under WinMo, however, it&#039;s very unlikely that the zeros of a function, its derivative, and its integral could be found without a manual because of the missing GUI.</p>
<p>The question must be answered: if WinMO 2003 is so powerful, why didn&#039;t developers flock to it in droves? Capability means nothing if it&#039;s not exploited. Having 25,000 apps is measurable progress. Arguing capability for an OS that&#039;s never used that capability means nothing. Software offerings are paltry under every mobile OS except Apple. The newest development for the iPhone OS is to use it as an interface to devices, like that one that will measure blood sugar. Is WinMO ahead here too? Then where are its products?</p>
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