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	<title>Comments on: Mike Abramsky: Apple vs. RIM revisited</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Ryan, Ontario Canada</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24561</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Ryan, Ontario Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard a rumor that RIM is possibly coming out with a &quot;SportsBerry&quot;



any comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a rumor that RIM is possibly coming out with a &#034;SportsBerry&#034;</p>
<p>any comment</p>
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		<title>By: James, Toronto, Ontario</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24560</link>
		<dc:creator>James, Toronto, Ontario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple had the foresight to exclude QWERTY keyboard from iPhone and force the multi-lingual Touch keyboards as the standard on smartphones. Now Apple is only minutes away from the 2 biggest markets in the world - China and India who are already well versed with the iPhone&#039;s Chinese and Hindi virtual keyboards, Rim&#039;s QWERTY keyboard is neither suitable for China and India, nor acceptible because the QWEETY keyboard takes out too much space and weighs too much as well as bulky.

Rim will never be acceptible in China and India.

Apple will succeed in selling billions of iPhones and iPods in China and India without any Buy1 Get1 Free blackberry kind of deals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple had the foresight to exclude QWERTY keyboard from iPhone and force the multi-lingual Touch keyboards as the standard on smartphones. Now Apple is only minutes away from the 2 biggest markets in the world &#8211; China and India who are already well versed with the iPhone&#039;s Chinese and Hindi virtual keyboards, Rim&#039;s QWERTY keyboard is neither suitable for China and India, nor acceptible because the QWEETY keyboard takes out too much space and weighs too much as well as bulky.</p>
<p>Rim will never be acceptible in China and India.</p>
<p>Apple will succeed in selling billions of iPhones and iPods in China and India without any Buy1 Get1 Free blackberry kind of deals.</p>
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		<title>By: Asher Pat, London</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24559</link>
		<dc:creator>Asher Pat, London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 14:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James from Toronto, Ontario May 9, 2009 1:03 pm



yes, the one that literally worships the iPhone &quot;god&quot;.



I expressed many times on PED&#039;s blog that many Apple&#039;s customers relate to it as a cult.  But if there is one post that confirms my sentiment, it is yours.



Man, you need to have your head checked (and I wud not be surprised to find a tatoo of something relating to Apple Inc on your forehead..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James from Toronto, Ontario May 9, 2009 1:03 pm</p>
<p>yes, the one that literally worships the iPhone &#034;god&#034;.</p>
<p>I expressed many times on PED&#039;s blog that many Apple&#039;s customers relate to it as a cult.  But if there is one post that confirms my sentiment, it is yours.</p>
<p>Man, you need to have your head checked (and I wud not be surprised to find a tatoo of something relating to Apple Inc on your forehead..)</p>
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		<title>By: henry j.</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24558</link>
		<dc:creator>henry j.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apple is a great company with amazing products.  however, the stock can&#039;t possibly be worth 125 bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apple is a great company with amazing products.  however, the stock can&#039;t possibly be worth 125 bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Palo Alto CA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24557</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Palo Alto CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pre will be dead on arrival.</description>
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		<title>By: Ted Cranmore, Waterloo On</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24556</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Cranmore, Waterloo On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article PED.

Abramsky&#039;s $70 call still irks me as the most outrageous call I&#039;ve seen from an analyst. Given his years in the business it was absolutely INCONCEIVABLE to me that he could make that call *while at the same time* being so optimistic on RIM. I&#039;ve never been so up in arms convinced that the analyst game is rigged after learning of his target. I actually don&#039;t feel much better now that he&#039;s admitted his mistake, the &#039;not a zero sum game&#039; statement he makes is precisely what makes his first call so insane, and it&#039;s not like he&#039;s a young pup that didn&#039;t know this. I&#039;d have been fine with his call if he also downgraded RIM on a bigger call that smartphone growth was in trouble due to the economy. But,  downgrading one while upgrading the other smells of something nobody wants to admit. The retraction, and especially the thoroughly bearish to thoroughly bullish flip-flop really make it appear he was pressured into the first call, and then found it so ridiculously indefensible that he pushed back because he could no longer stand looking in the mirror and seeing the glowing dunce cap on his head.



So, while this incident has completely shocked me, what bothers me more is the bigger issue. If this could happen to Abramsky, who&#039;s to say this doesn&#039;t happen all the time with all the other analysts we read and often hold great sway in the market? The probability is clear, it&#039;s very likely that many or most analysts are not giving us their views without being adapted by many undisclosed influences, and that should  bother us all.



Did it ever make you wonder why unofficial analysts like Zaky and Miller can consistently determine earnings within a few pennies while the  professional continues to miss by huge amounts? Do you really think they can&#039;t learn from the previous results and can continue to be so surprised? Sorry, this guys are intelligent people who could adjust their methods if accuracy was their goal. The conclusion is obvious and very difficult to credibly deny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article PED.</p>
<p>Abramsky&#039;s $70 call still irks me as the most outrageous call I&#039;ve seen from an analyst. Given his years in the business it was absolutely INCONCEIVABLE to me that he could make that call *while at the same time* being so optimistic on RIM. I&#039;ve never been so up in arms convinced that the analyst game is rigged after learning of his target. I actually don&#039;t feel much better now that he&#039;s admitted his mistake, the &#039;not a zero sum game&#039; statement he makes is precisely what makes his first call so insane, and it&#039;s not like he&#039;s a young pup that didn&#039;t know this. I&#039;d have been fine with his call if he also downgraded RIM on a bigger call that smartphone growth was in trouble due to the economy. But,  downgrading one while upgrading the other smells of something nobody wants to admit. The retraction, and especially the thoroughly bearish to thoroughly bullish flip-flop really make it appear he was pressured into the first call, and then found it so ridiculously indefensible that he pushed back because he could no longer stand looking in the mirror and seeing the glowing dunce cap on his head.</p>
<p>So, while this incident has completely shocked me, what bothers me more is the bigger issue. If this could happen to Abramsky, who&#039;s to say this doesn&#039;t happen all the time with all the other analysts we read and often hold great sway in the market? The probability is clear, it&#039;s very likely that many or most analysts are not giving us their views without being adapted by many undisclosed influences, and that should  bother us all.</p>
<p>Did it ever make you wonder why unofficial analysts like Zaky and Miller can consistently determine earnings within a few pennies while the  professional continues to miss by huge amounts? Do you really think they can&#039;t learn from the previous results and can continue to be so surprised? Sorry, this guys are intelligent people who could adjust their methods if accuracy was their goal. The conclusion is obvious and very difficult to credibly deny.</p>
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		<title>By: Bond, San Diego, CA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24555</link>
		<dc:creator>Bond, San Diego, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 19:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let put the hyperbole aside and look at the facts.  At present there is no question that the iPhone and Blackberry phones dominate their markets, however it appears that you are blindsighted by the fact that Palm&#039;s Pre is by all measures, in hardware and software, the the better devise.  Granted it has yet to be tested by the masses, however one should not lose sight of the fact that the cognoscente and pundits in the wireless world have admitted to the fact that to date the Pre has lived up to all its hype.  Let us forget the Anal-ysts, who are more wrong than right, and focus on the conclusion of the cognoscente and pundits who are rarely wrong.  Palm has many advantages, first its OS, the WebOS, was completely designed from scratch to perform most of its tasks on the internet and not the desktop, secondly the Pre addressed almost every hardware issue that was manifested in the Smart phone world.  Owing to this the Pre with its WebOS will become the fastest gun slinger in the market come this June.  To militate this the Pre will be capable of working on Sprints 4G network, essentially putting the final nail in ATT and VZ coffin with regard to who has the fastest and best Smart phone on the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let put the hyperbole aside and look at the facts.  At present there is no question that the iPhone and Blackberry phones dominate their markets, however it appears that you are blindsighted by the fact that Palm&#039;s Pre is by all measures, in hardware and software, the the better devise.  Granted it has yet to be tested by the masses, however one should not lose sight of the fact that the cognoscente and pundits in the wireless world have admitted to the fact that to date the Pre has lived up to all its hype.  Let us forget the Anal-ysts, who are more wrong than right, and focus on the conclusion of the cognoscente and pundits who are rarely wrong.  Palm has many advantages, first its OS, the WebOS, was completely designed from scratch to perform most of its tasks on the internet and not the desktop, secondly the Pre addressed almost every hardware issue that was manifested in the Smart phone world.  Owing to this the Pre with its WebOS will become the fastest gun slinger in the market come this June.  To militate this the Pre will be capable of working on Sprints 4G network, essentially putting the final nail in ATT and VZ coffin with regard to who has the fastest and best Smart phone on the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick  San Jose CA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/09/mike-abramsky-apple-vs-rim-revisited/#comment-24554</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick  San Jose CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 16:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/05/09/why-windows-7-is-microsofts-next-zune/#more-3521</description>
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		<title>By: Don P. Palo Alto CA.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don P. Palo Alto CA.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neil Matheny, Placerville, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Matheny, Placerville, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 15:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you say twice as many silly things as others, you are bound to be right at least half of the time.</description>
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