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	<title>Comments on: Consumer Reports loves those MacBooks</title>
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		<title>By: San Francisco</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/05/consumer-reports-loves-those-macbooks/#comment-24433</link>
		<dc:creator>San Francisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 21:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most retarded consumer reports yet.



If they want a fair comparison, do a native install with the same OS on ALL. Not to mention OSX is limited in ability and many things are now optimized for professional that run on Vista 64 but not in 64 bit mode on OSX.



The battery life on a mac, is notably shorter than Apple has advertised.



For the 13&quot; they didnt even include the Sony Z which mops the floor with Apple&#039;s laptop!!



The Sony VAIO SW also stops all over Apple&#039;s 15&quot;. Not included in competiton. Christ why not compare PCs with Apple&#039;s made 1 -1&amp;1/2 years ago, and see how Apple reacts because that&#039;s what you are doing with PCs!



The only lead that Apple has, might be with the 17&quot; but thats only slight with a massive price for it.



Consumer Reports = You get a very low ranking for accurate comparisons!



What did Apple slight some testers free computers and gifts? I want my money back from purchasing this crap on the news stand!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most retarded consumer reports yet.</p>
<p>If they want a fair comparison, do a native install with the same OS on ALL. Not to mention OSX is limited in ability and many things are now optimized for professional that run on Vista 64 but not in 64 bit mode on OSX.</p>
<p>The battery life on a mac, is notably shorter than Apple has advertised.</p>
<p>For the 13&#034; they didnt even include the Sony Z which mops the floor with Apple&#039;s laptop!!</p>
<p>The Sony VAIO SW also stops all over Apple&#039;s 15&#034;. Not included in competiton. Christ why not compare PCs with Apple&#039;s made 1 -1&amp;1/2 years ago, and see how Apple reacts because that&#039;s what you are doing with PCs!</p>
<p>The only lead that Apple has, might be with the 17&#034; but thats only slight with a massive price for it.</p>
<p>Consumer Reports = You get a very low ranking for accurate comparisons!</p>
<p>What did Apple slight some testers free computers and gifts? I want my money back from purchasing this crap on the news stand!</p>
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		<title>By: Fred, Alexandria, VA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred, Alexandria, VA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 16:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, Denver CO wrote:



&quot;You openly admit that the first thing you did when you got a MacBook Pro was to install Vista on it – just so that you could open some applications!&quot;



Now maybe you should openly admit that he now has a much greater base of applications to choose from than you do.  He can use OS X applications and Windows applications.  There are many Mac applications that are far superior to their Windows counterparts.  Plus he has the elegant, and far more productive, OS X operating system.



&quot;If it was Vista causing your problems, they would have returned when you installed Vista on your MacBook. Instead it sounds like you just needed a clean install of Vista.&quot;



That statement makes it clear that you&#039;re not fully cognizant of the technical side of things.  An operating system can be stable on one hardware platform and totally unstable on another.  If you cannot predict ahead of time whether it will be stable, that&#039;s a big concern.  Also, the thought that reinstalling the entire OS is a &quot;normal&quot; way to resolve problems is just crazy:  How did it get corrupted?  How do you avoid it happening again, possibly at a critical time?  And what is your time worth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, Denver CO wrote:</p>
<p>&#034;You openly admit that the first thing you did when you got a MacBook Pro was to install Vista on it – just so that you could open some applications!&#034;</p>
<p>Now maybe you should openly admit that he now has a much greater base of applications to choose from than you do.  He can use OS X applications and Windows applications.  There are many Mac applications that are far superior to their Windows counterparts.  Plus he has the elegant, and far more productive, OS X operating system.</p>
<p>&#034;If it was Vista causing your problems, they would have returned when you installed Vista on your MacBook. Instead it sounds like you just needed a clean install of Vista.&#034;</p>
<p>That statement makes it clear that you&#039;re not fully cognizant of the technical side of things.  An operating system can be stable on one hardware platform and totally unstable on another.  If you cannot predict ahead of time whether it will be stable, that&#039;s a big concern.  Also, the thought that reinstalling the entire OS is a &#034;normal&#034; way to resolve problems is just crazy:  How did it get corrupted?  How do you avoid it happening again, possibly at a critical time?  And what is your time worth?</p>
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		<title>By: cynik, switzerland</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/05/consumer-reports-loves-those-macbooks/#comment-24431</link>
		<dc:creator>cynik, switzerland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 11:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt writes:



&quot;What exactly are they measuring in this laptop ranking?&quot;



Consumer opinion on the best choice of product.



&quot;75 is better than 64, but without normalization, the data is meaningless.&quot;



That is exactly the sort of thing PC users say when their machine shuts down and crashes. &quot;The vector trans-invertor chip has cross referenced the voltage oscillator, and that has forced the operating system to go to Cuba for a holiday. But it is not a problem with the machine.&quot;



Matt continues: &quot;Yes, Lamborghini owners may be more satisfied with their purchase than Honda Civic owners, but it doesn’t mean the average person should buy a Lamborghini.&quot;



Yeah it does. Your analogy is useful. If the choice is between a honda civic and a porsche (lambo&#039;s are owned by porsche now), and the porsche only costs a few hundred bucks more than the civic..... yeah, buy the porsche! Its a no brainer.



See, this is crucial point that PC users always try to avoid. They justify their behaviour by saying &quot;cheaper is better&quot;.



cheaper is NOT better, except for people who like cheap things.



Dig?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt writes:</p>
<p>&#034;What exactly are they measuring in this laptop ranking?&#034;</p>
<p>Consumer opinion on the best choice of product.</p>
<p>&#034;75 is better than 64, but without normalization, the data is meaningless.&#034;</p>
<p>That is exactly the sort of thing PC users say when their machine shuts down and crashes. &#034;The vector trans-invertor chip has cross referenced the voltage oscillator, and that has forced the operating system to go to Cuba for a holiday. But it is not a problem with the machine.&#034;</p>
<p>Matt continues: &#034;Yes, Lamborghini owners may be more satisfied with their purchase than Honda Civic owners, but it doesn’t mean the average person should buy a Lamborghini.&#034;</p>
<p>Yeah it does. Your analogy is useful. If the choice is between a honda civic and a porsche (lambo&#039;s are owned by porsche now), and the porsche only costs a few hundred bucks more than the civic&#8230;.. yeah, buy the porsche! Its a no brainer.</p>
<p>See, this is crucial point that PC users always try to avoid. They justify their behaviour by saying &#034;cheaper is better&#034;.</p>
<p>cheaper is NOT better, except for people who like cheap things.</p>
<p>Dig?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Wood, Ivins, Utah 84738</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Wood, Ivins, Utah 84738</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I own PCs and a Mac Pro, for photography and video editing. My Mac Pro consistently &#039;drops&#039; drivers forcing me to reload driver software for my Canon ipf8000 printer. It also fails to come out of sleep mode on a regular basis. I loaded VM Fusion so I could run XP in order to run SONY Vegas video editing software, which I prefer to Final Cut. Guess what?  VM Fusion doesn&#039;t allow firewire connections to be recognized running Windows on a Mac. My MAC video card has gone sour. Now my options are to drive 120 miles to an Apple store to have it replaced or send it back to Apple. If I was using a Dell they would send me an advance replacement.  So far, not impressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own PCs and a Mac Pro, for photography and video editing. My Mac Pro consistently &#039;drops&#039; drivers forcing me to reload driver software for my Canon ipf8000 printer. It also fails to come out of sleep mode on a regular basis. I loaded VM Fusion so I could run XP in order to run SONY Vegas video editing software, which I prefer to Final Cut. Guess what?  VM Fusion doesn&#039;t allow firewire connections to be recognized running Windows on a Mac. My MAC video card has gone sour. Now my options are to drive 120 miles to an Apple store to have it replaced or send it back to Apple. If I was using a Dell they would send me an advance replacement.  So far, not impressive.</p>
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		<title>By: drdolittle1990 somewhere in TX</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/05/consumer-reports-loves-those-macbooks/#comment-24429</link>
		<dc:creator>drdolittle1990 somewhere in TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>y&#039;all foolss!!! ... GET A HACKINTOSH!!! lol :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>y&#039;all foolss!!! &#8230; GET A HACKINTOSH!!! lol <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chicago, IL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Chicago, IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those PC users who still don&#039;t get it, the best analogy of Mac vs. WinDoze is BMW vs. Chevy. Yes, you&#039;ll pay more for the BMW 3-series versus a Chevy Cobalt but the experience --and reward of ownership-- is totally different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those PC users who still don&#039;t get it, the best analogy of Mac vs. WinDoze is BMW vs. Chevy. Yes, you&#039;ll pay more for the BMW 3-series versus a Chevy Cobalt but the experience &#8211;and reward of ownership&#8211; is totally different.</p>
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		<title>By: James, Denver, CO</title>
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		<dc:creator>James, Denver, CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AM, Dallas, TX - I&#039;m sure Apple is happy to hear that their customer base is of the mentality of &quot;don&#039;t fix it, replace it.&quot;



You openly admit that the first thing you did when you got a MacBook Pro was to install Vista on it - just so that you could open some applications!



If it was Vista causing your problems, they would have returned when you installed Vista on your MacBook.  Instead it sounds like you just needed a clean install of Vista.



Perhaps your hardware was flawed, but don&#039;t fool yourself into thinking the issue was Vista.  So, yes paying a little more for better hardware makes sense, but that only strengthens the argument for grouping the notebooks by price point and not screen size.



You basically are saying that you spent $500-2000 for a new laptop, the $500 Apple premium on top of that, and then paid an additional $300 or so to Microsoft for a Windows license, just so you could get sleep mode to work.  Apple loves customers like you.  And so does Microsoft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AM, Dallas, TX &#8211; I&#039;m sure Apple is happy to hear that their customer base is of the mentality of &#034;don&#039;t fix it, replace it.&#034;</p>
<p>You openly admit that the first thing you did when you got a MacBook Pro was to install Vista on it &#8211; just so that you could open some applications!</p>
<p>If it was Vista causing your problems, they would have returned when you installed Vista on your MacBook.  Instead it sounds like you just needed a clean install of Vista.</p>
<p>Perhaps your hardware was flawed, but don&#039;t fool yourself into thinking the issue was Vista.  So, yes paying a little more for better hardware makes sense, but that only strengthens the argument for grouping the notebooks by price point and not screen size.</p>
<p>You basically are saying that you spent $500-2000 for a new laptop, the $500 Apple premium on top of that, and then paid an additional $300 or so to Microsoft for a Windows license, just so you could get sleep mode to work.  Apple loves customers like you.  And so does Microsoft.</p>
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		<title>By: The Closer</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/05/05/consumer-reports-loves-those-macbooks/#comment-24414</link>
		<dc:creator>The Closer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares about the technology, Macs are as close to fashionable as corporate types can get:



http://iloveclosing.com/2009/05/03/fashion-disasters-in-corporate-america/



Cheers

The Closer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares about the technology, Macs are as close to fashionable as corporate types can get:</p>
<p><a href="http://iloveclosing.com/2009/05/03/fashion-disasters-in-corporate-america/" rel="nofollow">http://iloveclosing.com/2009/05/03/fashion-disasters-in-corporate-america/</a></p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>The Closer</p>
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		<title>By: AM, Dallas, TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM, Dallas, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to James in Denver, CO:

I travel extensively on business, open and close my notebook more than a dozen times a day between meetings. Until I switched to Mac OS X six months ago, I was always afraid of my Vista notebook not coming back from sleep, requiring a 5 minute+ reboot - NOT what you want to happen in a client meeting! With my MacBook Pro, I never had a problem over the last six months, even while keeping some applications open in virtual Vista mode with Parallels. Since I switched, my frustration level has significantly dropped and my clients are thankful for not wasting their time, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to James in Denver, CO:</p>
<p>I travel extensively on business, open and close my notebook more than a dozen times a day between meetings. Until I switched to Mac OS X six months ago, I was always afraid of my Vista notebook not coming back from sleep, requiring a 5 minute+ reboot &#8211; NOT what you want to happen in a client meeting! With my MacBook Pro, I never had a problem over the last six months, even while keeping some applications open in virtual Vista mode with Parallels. Since I switched, my frustration level has significantly dropped and my clients are thankful for not wasting their time, too.</p>
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		<title>By: KD, Madison AL</title>
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		<dc:creator>KD, Madison AL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those ratings look good for Apple until you look at the pricing. As Matt from Austin wrote, Apple&#039;s laptops are two, three or even four times more expensive than PCs in the same category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those ratings look good for Apple until you look at the pricing. As Matt from Austin wrote, Apple&#039;s laptops are two, three or even four times more expensive than PCs in the same category.</p>
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