Honestly, with the headaches I get from using Microsoft software, it makes me wonder if MS employees even use their own products.

I have purchased and used both. I will pay more for macs because they are cheaper in the long run. They are more productive for longer periods of time.

If you make the claim that you are using a 6 year old PC and its still working fine – I just cannot believe that unless you reimage it every 8 months.

"And anyone that knows anything about buying a Mac will tell you to NEVER BUY RAM UPGRADES FROM APPLE! NEVER! You can change the RAM yourself on the cheap, and it won’t void your warranty. And it’s real hard to do on the iMac, I mean, you take out two whole phillips head screws, remove the little panel, pop out your old RAM, pop in your new RAM, and reinstall the panel. WHEW DOGGY! A whole whopping 3 minutes of work!!"

His response above was to mine quoting apple.ca that it costs $1200 for 4GB of DDR3 RAM on an iMac. It's usually always cheaper to change things on your own PC or MAC. I was merely comparing for the average person who will order everything from say dell.ca or apple.ca. I think it is fair to say most people that buy computers buy all they will need directly from the vendor, they don't go out and add RAM chips or bigger hard drives at home. For the average user, Apple socks it to em with that whopping $1200 4GB RAM charge, that RAM should be around $200-$300. At the worst that is a $1000 premium!!! It's no wonder Apple is in such a great CASH position at the moment.

Like a bloodied warrior,

laying broken and torn.

Like a dying soldier, hopeless and forlorn.

But the blood, it be green,

the color of money.

And the soldier is an economy,

and it is anything but funny.

Broken are it’s people and shattered are their dreams.

Thanks to the ultra rich and their full proof schemes.

It is a tragedy with more pain to come.

Finance will be Hell, and their wills will be done.

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I also workwith folks who have diabilities. Many of the best accesibility programs on themarket today are not available for the Macs. Some are but among the substitutes many of them are very poor. Especially voice recognition. Dragon (Nuance) sold their speech engine to MacSpeech and they promptly turned out a very poor software using that interface.

As for performance evidently Mac users aren't too aware of the Hackintosh. Folks are installing the Mac operating systems on pc computers and benchmark comparisons show that a pc runs the Mac OS BETTER. The only mark the Mac did better in was hyperthreading (I don;t ecpect Mac users to understand that term) and tha was because the Mac used in the study had dual processors where the Hackintos had one dualcore processor.

I say we let the Mac users feel secure in theri beleif that they are runing superior machines that they pay way too much for adn let them be stisfied that they can't run many of the software programs available to pc computers (and pay too much for the ones they can get0, and run down to the Mac store to pay a Mac Genius to solve any problems they have while they drool over the latest iPhone or iTouch.

I'll say one thing for Apple, they sure know hwo to market to the gullibles and separate them form their money!

LOL, I have not heard this one yet. I guess you didn't realize that Windows 64-bit OS's do support EFI, heck even windows CE supports it. The reason that manufacturers have not moved to it is the fact that it is an Intel patent product my man and well not every manufacture follows what Intel wants so there hasn't been an industry wide acceptance for it. Apple deals only with Intel so the switch is easy. I love when I hear these people come out with gotcha's that are far from it. Maybe it is an advantage for the Mac, but Windows is not what is holding up EFI adoptions, its the hardware vendors. Sorry I had to break the news to you. I have too much time on my hands, I manage Windows systems so I get to play on the internet alot. Have a good day.

The BIOS is why your generic PC can't keep up with a Mac in terms of booting, rebooting, or even running Windows (uugh!) as fast as relatively equivalent Mac hardware.

Talk about uninformed. I have a LOT of experience with PCs. They would be far better off with a MODERN firmware implementation, but Microsoft has fought against it. The 'hardware vendors' on the PC side of things really don't do much, and they pretty much just take what MS allows. That is a big part of the current Mac PC difference and why a Mac will trounce the PC even at running windows.