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	<title>Comments on: Apple vs. Palm: Geeks with grudges</title>
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		<title>By: Dave, boulder, colorado</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-29007</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave, boulder, colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: geoff, philadelphia: We are taking over and securely administering Windows servers, Linux servers and controlling our building environment with iphones from anywhere that we have a cellular or WiFi signal. Oh yeah, sometimes we make calls too, level a painting on the wall, you know, normal stuff. You are not doing that with your Pre or storm, are you? Ripped apart, at your request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: geoff, philadelphia: We are taking over and securely administering Windows servers, Linux servers and controlling our building environment with iphones from anywhere that we have a cellular or WiFi signal. Oh yeah, sometimes we make calls too, level a painting on the wall, you know, normal stuff. You are not doing that with your Pre or storm, are you? Ripped apart, at your request.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave, boulder, colorado</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-29005</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave, boulder, colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: MULTI-CARRIER OWNER, OKLAHOMA CITY OK: What are you talking about? &quot;Entourage&quot; is written by Microsoft and is part of hte Microsoft Office Suite for the Mac. That is not Apple. Apple copies because there is &quot;Firefox&quot;, &quot;Thunderbird&quot;, &quot;Word&quot;, &quot;Excel&quot; and Entourage? Apple has &quot;Mail&quot;. That is the mail program for the Mac. If you want Outlook for the Mac, well that is Entourage and is written and sold by Microsoft. Entourage is going to be replaced with Outlook for the Mac. Entourage actually replaced Outlook for the Mac originally. Nothing to do with Apple.

You will be able to watch Live TV on your iphone, perform turn by turn navigation, run more than one major (native) app at a time, 

The iPhone has and exchange client built in, so you can use that. You can surf the web better on the iPhone than any other smartphone. Pandora? I don&#039;t know yet, but it is likely not Apple&#039;s fault if you can&#039;t at this time. You will  probably be able to soon anyway. Were you expecting Apple to roll out an iPhone that incorporates every feature form every smartphone ever made, right off the bat? Planet Earth, remember?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: MULTI-CARRIER OWNER, OKLAHOMA CITY OK: What are you talking about? &#034;Entourage&#034; is written by Microsoft and is part of hte Microsoft Office Suite for the Mac. That is not Apple. Apple copies because there is &#034;Firefox&#034;, &#034;Thunderbird&#034;, &#034;Word&#034;, &#034;Excel&#034; and Entourage? Apple has &#034;Mail&#034;. That is the mail program for the Mac. If you want Outlook for the Mac, well that is Entourage and is written and sold by Microsoft. Entourage is going to be replaced with Outlook for the Mac. Entourage actually replaced Outlook for the Mac originally. Nothing to do with Apple.</p>
<p>You will be able to watch Live TV on your iphone, perform turn by turn navigation, run more than one major (native) app at a time, </p>
<p>The iPhone has and exchange client built in, so you can use that. You can surf the web better on the iPhone than any other smartphone. Pandora? I don&#039;t know yet, but it is likely not Apple&#039;s fault if you can&#039;t at this time. You will  probably be able to soon anyway. Were you expecting Apple to roll out an iPhone that incorporates every feature form every smartphone ever made, right off the bat? Planet Earth, remember?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave, boulder, colorado</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-29003</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave, boulder, colorado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: zurich switzerland: Palm was first with touchscreen 15 years ago and didn&#039;t get any better in those 15 years. Palm is struggling for a reason. The issue isn&#039;t &quot;touch&quot;. The issue is &quot;Multi-Touch gestures&quot;. The Pre is a copy of the iPhone because the iPhone is the best. That is where Gates came up with Windows in the first place. It was another bad copy of the Apple OS. The Pre is another bad copy of the Apple  iPhone. I have a Palm Treo in my pocket right now. The thing sucks and my iPhone should be here within a week. You sound like a Palm fanboy. Apple holds pretty much all the patents on multi-touch, which Palm KNOWS about. Palm thinks that they can get around the Apple patents. Well, good luck. The Pre OS still sucks in comparison to the iPhone OS, so I am not worried about head to head competition. THe problem is people like you will say the Pre is as good as the iPhone and some idiot will buy the Pre because you falsely equated the two devices. I&#039;ve not heard the term &quot;Pre killer&quot;, ever. How many devices were touted as attempts to be an &quot;iPhone killer&quot;. That&#039;s because the iPhone is king of the hill. Even though Blackberry is the top dog, nobody is talking about the Blackberry killer. That is rather illuminating, isn&#039;t it? Not just &quot;fanboys&quot; creating that environment. The iPhone actually is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: zurich switzerland: Palm was first with touchscreen 15 years ago and didn&#039;t get any better in those 15 years. Palm is struggling for a reason. The issue isn&#039;t &#034;touch&#034;. The issue is &#034;Multi-Touch gestures&#034;. The Pre is a copy of the iPhone because the iPhone is the best. That is where Gates came up with Windows in the first place. It was another bad copy of the Apple OS. The Pre is another bad copy of the Apple  iPhone. I have a Palm Treo in my pocket right now. The thing sucks and my iPhone should be here within a week. You sound like a Palm fanboy. Apple holds pretty much all the patents on multi-touch, which Palm KNOWS about. Palm thinks that they can get around the Apple patents. Well, good luck. The Pre OS still sucks in comparison to the iPhone OS, so I am not worried about head to head competition. THe problem is people like you will say the Pre is as good as the iPhone and some idiot will buy the Pre because you falsely equated the two devices. I&#039;ve not heard the term &#034;Pre killer&#034;, ever. How many devices were touted as attempts to be an &#034;iPhone killer&#034;. That&#039;s because the iPhone is king of the hill. Even though Blackberry is the top dog, nobody is talking about the Blackberry killer. That is rather illuminating, isn&#039;t it? Not just &#034;fanboys&#034; creating that environment. The iPhone actually is better.</p>
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		<title>By: zurich switzerland</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-27296</link>
		<dc:creator>zurich switzerland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! The ignorance towards Palm is amazing.

Lets all get three things strait. It was Palm who 1st decided to make a convergence device that allows you to leave your laptop at home. The iPhone never technically beat palm&#039;s Treo which was officially in 1st place before the i-hype and Apples touch is almost exactly the same consept as Palm’s Tungsteens although they were marketed differently.   It’s the same device but Palms to this day has way more applications. Come on people, don’t you remember what the Starbucks crowd was using before Apple came along?  I’m figuring all the I worship is coming from people under the age of 26 &amp; apple fanboys ( I never liked apple fanboys). A really annoying bunch of sissies who think they know everything &amp; don’t know Poop about anything because they worship every syllable out of Steve Jobs mouth. 

Hello, Palm was First with a touch screen like 15 years ago!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! The ignorance towards Palm is amazing.</p>
<p>Lets all get three things strait. It was Palm who 1st decided to make a convergence device that allows you to leave your laptop at home. The iPhone never technically beat palm&#039;s Treo which was officially in 1st place before the i-hype and Apples touch is almost exactly the same consept as Palm’s Tungsteens although they were marketed differently.   It’s the same device but Palms to this day has way more applications. Come on people, don’t you remember what the Starbucks crowd was using before Apple came along?  I’m figuring all the I worship is coming from people under the age of 26 &amp; apple fanboys ( I never liked apple fanboys). A really annoying bunch of sissies who think they know everything &amp; don’t know Poop about anything because they worship every syllable out of Steve Jobs mouth. </p>
<p>Hello, Palm was First with a touch screen like 15 years ago!</p>
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		<title>By: MULTI-CARRIER OWNER, OKLAHOMA CITY OK</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-18806</link>
		<dc:creator>MULTI-CARRIER OWNER, OKLAHOMA CITY OK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Boberino, you say apple doesn&#039;t copy anyone huh? Apple using the main application called Entourage? A lot of mac users loving that, oh it&#039;s Microsoft Entourage....Apple is 1 track minded: Can you watch Live TV on your iphone 3gs, can you perform turn by turn navigation? Can you run more than one major (native) app on the iphone at the same time, who doesn&#039;t multi-task today? I use my exchange account, surf the web and listen to pandora (techno) all at the same time!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Boberino, you say apple doesn&#039;t copy anyone huh? Apple using the main application called Entourage? A lot of mac users loving that, oh it&#039;s Microsoft Entourage&#8230;.Apple is 1 track minded: Can you watch Live TV on your iphone 3gs, can you perform turn by turn navigation? Can you run more than one major (native) app on the iphone at the same time, who doesn&#039;t multi-task today? I use my exchange account, surf the web and listen to pandora (techno) all at the same time!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa San Antonio TX</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-18805</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa San Antonio TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im glad theres so many passionate people in the world who can comment on either type of phone. There is an endless supply of people who are more than willing to have a $100 monthly phone bill which will keep any company in business regardless of what anyones opinion of the product is even though the ultimate function of a phone is to make phone calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im glad theres so many passionate people in the world who can comment on either type of phone. There is an endless supply of people who are more than willing to have a $100 monthly phone bill which will keep any company in business regardless of what anyones opinion of the product is even though the ultimate function of a phone is to make phone calls.</p>
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		<title>By: geoff, philadelphia</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-18804</link>
		<dc:creator>geoff, philadelphia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbiased opinions are obviously sacred and rare on this comment board.  I have an iphone and it is just an overrated ipod.  It has sleek designing and is very addictive once in your hands.  BUT IT SUCKS AS A PHONE (which is what it is supposed to be).  I&#039;m glad palm matched the iphone and will be transferring to verizon in the winter.  Between the Pre and the next generation Storm there will finally be alternative choices.



Go ahead cult, rip this comment apart on your $1,500 macbook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbiased opinions are obviously sacred and rare on this comment board.  I have an iphone and it is just an overrated ipod.  It has sleek designing and is very addictive once in your hands.  BUT IT SUCKS AS A PHONE (which is what it is supposed to be).  I&#039;m glad palm matched the iphone and will be transferring to verizon in the winter.  Between the Pre and the next generation Storm there will finally be alternative choices.</p>
<p>Go ahead cult, rip this comment apart on your $1,500 macbook</p>
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		<title>By: Boberino, San Diego, CA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-18803</link>
		<dc:creator>Boberino, San Diego, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple makes the best products.  They are the innovators while others are followers.  The PRE is a perfect example.  It tries to copy iPhone.  Vista tries to copy Mac OS.  Zune tries to copy iPod.  None copies Apple well. You never see Apple trying to copy others.  When you are the Porsche on the block you have to expect the Fords to be resentful.  I&#039;m sure Apple is used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple makes the best products.  They are the innovators while others are followers.  The PRE is a perfect example.  It tries to copy iPhone.  Vista tries to copy Mac OS.  Zune tries to copy iPod.  None copies Apple well. You never see Apple trying to copy others.  When you are the Porsche on the block you have to expect the Fords to be resentful.  I&#039;m sure Apple is used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin, Scottsdale AZ</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-18802</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin, Scottsdale AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the tech specs, this is all about market positioning. Sprint&#039;s Pre will fail because Sprint holds the professional Nextel crowd. Think construction workers. The Pre will not fly, and Apple was smart to go with GSM - though its slower, it is the cost saving alternative and (T-mobile, At&amp;t and Cricket) serve predominantly young people...their target market. Johnny just planted another Apple seed - in young consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the tech specs, this is all about market positioning. Sprint&#039;s Pre will fail because Sprint holds the professional Nextel crowd. Think construction workers. The Pre will not fly, and Apple was smart to go with GSM &#8211; though its slower, it is the cost saving alternative and (T-mobile, At&amp;t and Cricket) serve predominantly young people&#8230;their target market. Johnny just planted another Apple seed &#8211; in young consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: London, Overland Park, KS</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/01/26/apple-vs-palm-geeks-with-grudges/#comment-18801</link>
		<dc:creator>London, Overland Park, KS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bite the hand that feeds you.  He has $26 million from Apple.  Now, he&#039;s at war with them.  Unbelievable.  Should have stayed in Mexico.  He definitely is no Steve Jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bite the hand that feeds you.  He has $26 million from Apple.  Now, he&#039;s at war with them.  Unbelievable.  Should have stayed in Mexico.  He definitely is no Steve Jobs.</p>
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