Comments on: Where are Apple's women execs?

By: reinharden; Herndon, VA

reinharden; Herndon, VA — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:58:54 +0000

Robert T. – The original article was apparently edited to remove the references to "white men" (and fairly quickly since your comment came less than 3 hours after mine).

I hate it when they do that kind of stuff without mentioning it; but as I said it my comment, it's a stronger article without the reference.

reinharden

By: Chuck Staples, Boston, MA

Chuck Staples, Boston, MA — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:51:57 +0000

I'd be more interested in this article if they published the percentage of qualified résumés from women vs. the percentage actually hired (and the number of résumés typically received for a position).

Just saying there are no females executives has vastly different meanings depending on the context.

By: Tony, Monterey, CA

Tony, Monterey, CA — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:26:44 +0000

Apple publicly takes a stand against Prop 8 and gets high marks from the LGBT community for fair practices, and yet they're getting nitpicked for not forcing a woman to be an exec? Non-story. Dig into some real news CNN.

By: GIVE IT UP FEMNAZIES

GIVE IT UP FEMNAZIES — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:08:26 +0000

Who cares? Today question like this are just to make noise, have no point. The Media needs to stop and report on something that's real and not on time wasting stories.

By: Joe, San Francisco, Ca

Joe, San Francisco, Ca — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:05:15 +0000

Apple is a company that values your brain and not your looks. Since most women are put in management positions just to raise the companies inclusion figures. Apple cannot afford dead weight and has therefor declined this quasi gender mandated figure over substance.

Example: If they valued looks, they would not have hired Andrea Jung.

By: Buford, GA

Buford, GA — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:08:08 +0000

I guess Women just arent that bright.

By: Terrin, Ann Arbor Michigan

Terrin, Ann Arbor Michigan — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:01:11 +0000

First, true diversity is based on perspective, not what race or sex you are. To suggest otherwise is absurd. Second, this is knowingly unscientific, but most women I know are interested in raising children, often times along with being a professional. Unfortunately, to rise to the level of a high level executive of a company like Apple you 1) need to know somebody or 2) sacrifice wanting to raise a child. Many women simply don't want to make that kind of sacrifice when people are never guaranteed to rise to the very top (regardless of their sex). Third, again this is an unscientific inquiry based just on various news articles, but it seems many more men then women are interested in engineering, especially from a real early age. Apple likes not only to hire MBAs, but MBAs with an engineering background. That is going to exclude a lot of women. Fourth, Apple's highest legal officer up until not too long ago, Nancy Heinen, was a woman. Not such a good example with all the back dating, but it is one of the few executive positions at Apple that you don't necessary need to have a strong technology background. Another example is Danielle Lambert, senior vice president for human resources. Again, one of the few non technology related position. Fifth, I remember when Jesse Jackson showed up at an Apple stock holder meeting a few years ago trying to insinuate that Apple's hiring practices are discriminatory because there weren't any blacks in upper management. Jobs quickly pointed out that highly competitive tech companies are interested strictly in talent, and most of it's workers are asian minorities. This was after Jackson got Honda to give him like a billion dollars for supposedly discriminating against blacks based on some clearly not discriminatory commercial. That didn't happen to Apple. Finally, again from experience. Men love women. If you are remotely attractive, a guy is going to hire you over a man if you aren't quite as qualified. That of course is reverse discrimination, but men are weak.

By: Ken C, Gardiner, Maine

Ken C, Gardiner, Maine — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:58:44 +0000

Apple is quite diverse, they even have an alien. I'm quite sure Bertrand Serlet, is from the same planet as Mork.

By: tl, irvine, ca

tl, irvine, ca — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:47:53 +0000

(yaaaaaaawn)

what a non story. big freakin deal…

By: Russ, Mesa, AZ

Russ, Mesa, AZ — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:30:34 +0000

Because true diversity comes from people who look different.