iPhone=pure software hell (mostly in updates)

G1= still tricky but easier to maintain

As a G1 owner and a iPhone tech rep, I would suggest the G1, the updates are not as complicated, and usually the phone still works after the update.

iPhone vs G1 MMS

iPhone 3GS and the new 3.0 software update is capable of MMS but the wireless carrier won't support MMS until late summer 2009

G1 can do MMS as of now but it is hard to figure out how to do it!!

They both have a place to download apps. Most of the apps are the same. Some of the apps for both phones can be costly and if you don't keep them updated and if u don't use them allot they can take up space on your phone. FYI download apps that you will use all the time, update at least once a week(to keep current), if you don't use an app uninstall it and free up that space.

ex ped: Software hell?

I'm not sure you understand the difference between a web browser and a website. Also both the G1's browser and Safari on the iPhone use the same rendering engine (Webkit).

ex ped: The iPhone today has 38,956 active active apps. As of April, the G1 had 2,300.

ex ped: $69.99 for unlimited e-mail and Web access (using the cheapest voice plan, 450 anytime minutes) plus $20 for unlimited text."

Wow. Looks like a typical apple user. $69.99 plus $20 is $89.99. Which is where they get $90.

Apple users lack knowledge. Which is why they're apple users.

Iphones can still be hacked.

The touch screen sucks on Iphones.

The battery can't be upgraded.

Google earth in 2010 will have global video recording. Digital reality! Enabled on your G1 in the future.

Google is better than safari.

G1 Open platform means somebody who can publish software for G1 phones and make the G1 #1 will be rich.

G1 has potential, give it time.

Iphones have a lot of problems, especially with the new at&t censorship. google is global.

1 – the camera on the iPhone is better. No contest. I challenge anyone to offer pictures of ten different scenes on both an iPhone 3g and a G1 and show me one that looks better on the G1. No-one will, though they may make an ignorant retort. I have the pictures; I have both phones.

2 – sound. The G1 has a poor speaker. It is about the same loudness as the iPhone 3g but is far tinnier and placed in a very poor position at the back of the unit.

3 – IM – the iPhone offers far more options than the G1, though since the Android platform is new and burgeoning this is forgiveable. What cannot be overlooked though is the lack of Facebook app, if the device is to compete with Blackberry and Apple. Like Windows Mobile it had a third-party attempt at such an app but this is not as slick and comprehensive as the genuine articles.

4 – Email. Whilst the G1 syncs my Gmail account superbly it does not render emails as nicely as the iPhone, nor does it display attached photos as effectively and reliably as the iPhone.

5 – convenience. The G1s Cupcake update in Jan/Feb will offer integrated onscreen keyboard support from within all applications, but I wonder how this will compare to the clever predictive setup of the iPhones keyboard. For the time being it is most invonvenient to have to slide a keyboard out just to answer a text with the word 'yes', and one wonders whether this constant sliding will cause the hinge to wear out. There are third party workarounds such as ChompSms and Steel but I want real, out of box integration.

These are my only major gripes.

Oh and for whoever said the Touch HD wipes the floor with these two devices, seriously get real. No Windows Mobile device with. Resistive screen (no matter how high the pixel count) could compete in terms of providing GUI fluidity, the camera is just another smudgy HTC CMOS with a higher megapixel count and underpinning it is the dire stylus-driven Windows Mobile. I dropped windows mobile after the Touch Diamond, I hope HTC will very soon.