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		<title>By: KD, White Plains, NY</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/07/09/finally-the-real-iphone/#comment-13152</link>
		<dc:creator>KD, White Plains, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Apple - carrier contracts with the first iphone were simple:  Apple got the subsidy money that the customer usually got.  The carriers forced Apple into exclusive terms in return.  Winners:  carriers, totally, because they lost nothing if phones were unlocked.



Now, after a year of screwing over customers, we finally get the subsidy instead of Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Apple &#8211; carrier contracts with the first iphone were simple:  Apple got the subsidy money that the customer usually got.  The carriers forced Apple into exclusive terms in return.  Winners:  carriers, totally, because they lost nothing if phones were unlocked.</p>
<p>Now, after a year of screwing over customers, we finally get the subsidy instead of Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: DBX, Chicago IL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBX, Chicago IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that even with the price increase, the iPhone still comes in significantly below having a BlackBerry with Verizon.  Verizon&#039;s BlackBerry prices are truly outrageous; by my reckoning, an iPhone with 450 voice minutes and a text plan is going to be $75 a month with Internet access as standard, while a BlackBerry Curve on VZN is going to be $100 a month with the Internet option enabled, or $85 with email ONLY.



AT&amp;T&#039;s plans aren&#039;t cheap, that&#039;s for sure, but they&#039;ve set the rates they have because thanks to Verizon&#039;s arrogance, they can.  I hope Verizon are forced into some more reasonable rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that even with the price increase, the iPhone still comes in significantly below having a BlackBerry with Verizon.  Verizon&#039;s BlackBerry prices are truly outrageous; by my reckoning, an iPhone with 450 voice minutes and a text plan is going to be $75 a month with Internet access as standard, while a BlackBerry Curve on VZN is going to be $100 a month with the Internet option enabled, or $85 with email ONLY.</p>
<p>AT&amp;T&#039;s plans aren&#039;t cheap, that&#039;s for sure, but they&#039;ve set the rates they have because thanks to Verizon&#039;s arrogance, they can.  I hope Verizon are forced into some more reasonable rates.</p>
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		<title>By: shawn King, Danbury, CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>shawn King, Danbury, CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip, why would I &quot;send you an email&quot; to get the names of people who should have been quoted directly in your story? Is everyone supposed to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, why would I &#034;send you an email&#034; to get the names of people who should have been quoted directly in your story? Is everyone supposed to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Ross, CO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross, CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vg,



You are half right. It was Verizon, not sprint, who was first approached about the iPhone. They decided against carrying the handset because apple wanted a cut of the monthly revenue from each iphone user.



Also, T-Mobile is just now starting to roll out a 3G network, with only one area launched (Chicago). AT&amp;T which is the largest carrier per subscribers is still behind Verizon and Sprint in 3G coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vg,</p>
<p>You are half right. It was Verizon, not sprint, who was first approached about the iPhone. They decided against carrying the handset because apple wanted a cut of the monthly revenue from each iphone user.</p>
<p>Also, T-Mobile is just now starting to roll out a 3G network, with only one area launched (Chicago). AT&amp;T which is the largest carrier per subscribers is still behind Verizon and Sprint in 3G coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobab, LV, NV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobab, LV, NV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iCopy, copy and paste for iPhone...



http://www.biocow.com/iCopy/





iPhone Video Recorder...



http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iCopy, copy and paste for iPhone&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biocow.com/iCopy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.biocow.com/iCopy/</a></p>
<p>iPhone Video Recorder&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: iSmahPhone</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/07/09/finally-the-real-iphone/#comment-13147</link>
		<dc:creator>iSmahPhone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Yelenak



Current iPhone SDK does not allow access to low level stuff like ability to video record, zoom camera, background apps.  All those things can be done only on jailbroken phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Yelenak</p>
<p>Current iPhone SDK does not allow access to low level stuff like ability to video record, zoom camera, background apps.  All those things can be done only on jailbroken phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn King, Danbury, CT</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/07/09/finally-the-real-iphone/#comment-13146</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn King, Danbury, CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 23:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There’s a theory favored by savvy Apple watchers...&quot;



And who might they be? I&#039;ve never heard *anyone* proclaim this &quot;theory&quot;. Why does it sound like some harebrained conspiracy theory *you* dreamed up Philip and are floating here as if it were news&quot;?



Please - name *one* &quot;savvy Apple watcher&quot; Who posited the theory - cause you don&#039;t name any of them in your &quot;news story&quot;...



ex ped: Send me an e-mail Shawn and I&#039;ll give you some names and addresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;There’s a theory favored by savvy Apple watchers&#8230;&#034;</p>
<p>And who might they be? I&#039;ve never heard *anyone* proclaim this &#034;theory&#034;. Why does it sound like some harebrained conspiracy theory *you* dreamed up Philip and are floating here as if it were news&#034;?</p>
<p>Please &#8211; name *one* &#034;savvy Apple watcher&#034; Who posited the theory &#8211; cause you don&#039;t name any of them in your &#034;news story&#034;&#8230;</p>
<p>ex ped: Send me an e-mail Shawn and I&#039;ll give you some names and addresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Earle, Los Angeles CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Earle, Los Angeles CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Travis D:



The 32 GB iPod Touch has 2 16 GB chips in it.



The iPhone 3G cannot have 32 GB because the space taken up by one of those 2 16 GB chips in the iPod Touch is, in the iPhone 3G, taken up by some of the cellular radio chips that make it a phone and not an iPod.  There simply isn&#039;t room in the iPhone to make it both a cell phone and a 32 GB device.  You&#039;ll have to wait until the iPod Touch becomes 64 GB for your iPhone 3G Next Generation to get to 32 GB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Travis D:</p>
<p>The 32 GB iPod Touch has 2 16 GB chips in it.</p>
<p>The iPhone 3G cannot have 32 GB because the space taken up by one of those 2 16 GB chips in the iPod Touch is, in the iPhone 3G, taken up by some of the cellular radio chips that make it a phone and not an iPod.  There simply isn&#039;t room in the iPhone to make it both a cell phone and a 32 GB device.  You&#039;ll have to wait until the iPod Touch becomes 64 GB for your iPhone 3G Next Generation to get to 32 GB.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis D, Fremont CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis D, Fremont CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i want it, but will not buy iPhone 2.0. i will stick with my 9 year Sprint contract and 8 month old 16gb iPod touch. reason - this 2.0 phone is still not up to par for me. why no 32gb phone? they have 32gb touch, can&#039;t be much more difficult or expensive to put a 32gb chip(s) into an iPhone. my 16gb touch is already mostly full and with added sdk&#039;s, games, apps, etc -- a 16gb phone does nothing for me. also, not keen on ATT only plans, added services fees, lousy 2mp camera, and no video cam. i could ignore all that if only they had a 32gb version.



sadly, i&#039;m forced to wait another 6-12 months in hopes of another added 16gb (and hopefully more features). steve, don&#039;t you want my money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want it, but will not buy iPhone 2.0. i will stick with my 9 year Sprint contract and 8 month old 16gb iPod touch. reason &#8211; this 2.0 phone is still not up to par for me. why no 32gb phone? they have 32gb touch, can&#039;t be much more difficult or expensive to put a 32gb chip(s) into an iPhone. my 16gb touch is already mostly full and with added sdk&#039;s, games, apps, etc &#8212; a 16gb phone does nothing for me. also, not keen on ATT only plans, added services fees, lousy 2mp camera, and no video cam. i could ignore all that if only they had a 32gb version.</p>
<p>sadly, i&#039;m forced to wait another 6-12 months in hopes of another added 16gb (and hopefully more features). steve, don&#039;t you want my money?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Earle, Los Angeles CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Earle, Los Angeles CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still consider the iPhone 3G to be &quot;iPhone 1.5&quot;, not iPhone 2.0.



Sony Ericsson is coming out with a Cybershot phone that has an 8 megapixel camera with Xenon flash.  There&#039;s no excuse for a 2 MP camera in the 2nd iPhone.



Basic stuff that every phone has (like MMS) is still missing.  I like to go on hikes, take a snap from high up on a trail and send it to my buddies via MMS.  Having to use some convoluted e-mail service as a go-between is retarded.



And what about A2DP Stereo BlueTooth audio?  Especially given the new July 1st hands-free law?  Hello?



What about tethering?  I could use my GSM phone as a modem for my Mac a few years ago.  Why can&#039;t an iPhone 3G do it?



Last but not least, unlocking.  I go overseas a few times a year, and there&#039;s nothing quite so convenient as getting there and buying a pre-paid SIM card and slapping it into your existing phone.  No muss, no fuss.  A simple, easy consumer experience - you know, the kind Apple is known for.  I shouldn&#039;t have to resort to Jailbreaking and tricky unlocking mechanisms that may break in future firmware releases!  I just want an unlocked version - like you can get with, oh, just about every other GSM phone out there.  Paying AT&amp;T International Roaming charges is ludicrous when there are pre-paid SIM cards out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still consider the iPhone 3G to be &#034;iPhone 1.5&#034;, not iPhone 2.0.</p>
<p>Sony Ericsson is coming out with a Cybershot phone that has an 8 megapixel camera with Xenon flash.  There&#039;s no excuse for a 2 MP camera in the 2nd iPhone.</p>
<p>Basic stuff that every phone has (like MMS) is still missing.  I like to go on hikes, take a snap from high up on a trail and send it to my buddies via MMS.  Having to use some convoluted e-mail service as a go-between is retarded.</p>
<p>And what about A2DP Stereo BlueTooth audio?  Especially given the new July 1st hands-free law?  Hello?</p>
<p>What about tethering?  I could use my GSM phone as a modem for my Mac a few years ago.  Why can&#039;t an iPhone 3G do it?</p>
<p>Last but not least, unlocking.  I go overseas a few times a year, and there&#039;s nothing quite so convenient as getting there and buying a pre-paid SIM card and slapping it into your existing phone.  No muss, no fuss.  A simple, easy consumer experience &#8211; you know, the kind Apple is known for.  I shouldn&#039;t have to resort to Jailbreaking and tricky unlocking mechanisms that may break in future firmware releases!  I just want an unlocked version &#8211; like you can get with, oh, just about every other GSM phone out there.  Paying AT&amp;T International Roaming charges is ludicrous when there are pre-paid SIM cards out there.</p>
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