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	<title>Comments on: 30,000 Canadians petition for iPhone rate relief</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/29/9000-canadians-petition-steve-jobs-for-iphone-rate-relief/#comment-37180</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased the iPhone on June 2 2009 I  thought it was the 3gs but it was not out till  the 17th of June I phoned into customer care they told me I was stuck with the 3g but would refund me the 100 dollars because the 8 gb would be 99 on the 17 and I paid 200 plus tax  so they told me to just go to the store I purchased the phone from after the 17th  and they could do the credit. So I did just that worked perfect then  I recieve my first bill and and I was over on my minutes by 18 dollars   This is the plan I had 75 dollar plan plus 40 dollars for data of 2gb  and 450 daytime minutes including longdistance plus 250  extra long distance minutes and 5 dollars for early evenings  for a total of  $158.20  then I phone  them disputing my bill overage for callls I made during the day because my first 3 months was suppose to be unlimited but just for local not long distance  So they credited me the 18 dollars then next months bill was  210 so I phoned them stating that I had the biggest plan they offered and I was over by 60 dollars I wanted a plan that I would not go over I then did research to fido and Rogers when I purchased the they told me I had to put a deposit on on the phone of 100 dollars  so i did then after not paying for 2 month they cancelled the phone I then phone in and yelll them my credit limit is 300 but I paid 368 with accesories when I purchased why do I have a credit limit he told me that it couldn&#039;t be takin off till I payed it so I. Did then I phoned back in stating I was paying the contract out and going with their sister company fido  because they have fare better rates the guy says hold on and let me look at ur account  he then gave me this plan  1000 minutes long distance 950 daytime after evening and weekends  6gb of data 2500 sent or recieved text messaages  for 108 taxes included witch is sweet so just be as arrogant as they are when selling u the phone and they will fold trust me Rogers is not the only  provider  in Canada and have competion now then I as the guy if he could credit 100 dollars for the phone   Par my puchase for 199 and he said yes and  put it on my account so really for the first 2 months I had 60 invested plus  a new ipne I very happy with it  so just talk to them and make sure u let them know ur not just another number :) anyway I wish u alll luck with ur new iPhone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased the iPhone on June 2 2009 I  thought it was the 3gs but it was not out till  the 17th of June I phoned into customer care they told me I was stuck with the 3g but would refund me the 100 dollars because the 8 gb would be 99 on the 17 and I paid 200 plus tax  so they told me to just go to the store I purchased the phone from after the 17th  and they could do the credit. So I did just that worked perfect then  I recieve my first bill and and I was over on my minutes by 18 dollars   This is the plan I had 75 dollar plan plus 40 dollars for data of 2gb  and 450 daytime minutes including longdistance plus 250  extra long distance minutes and 5 dollars for early evenings  for a total of  $158.20  then I phone  them disputing my bill overage for callls I made during the day because my first 3 months was suppose to be unlimited but just for local not long distance  So they credited me the 18 dollars then next months bill was  210 so I phoned them stating that I had the biggest plan they offered and I was over by 60 dollars I wanted a plan that I would not go over I then did research to fido and Rogers when I purchased the they told me I had to put a deposit on on the phone of 100 dollars  so i did then after not paying for 2 month they cancelled the phone I then phone in and yelll them my credit limit is 300 but I paid 368 with accesories when I purchased why do I have a credit limit he told me that it couldn&#039;t be takin off till I payed it so I. Did then I phoned back in stating I was paying the contract out and going with their sister company fido  because they have fare better rates the guy says hold on and let me look at ur account  he then gave me this plan  1000 minutes long distance 950 daytime after evening and weekends  6gb of data 2500 sent or recieved text messaages  for 108 taxes included witch is sweet so just be as arrogant as they are when selling u the phone and they will fold trust me Rogers is not the only  provider  in Canada and have competion now then I as the guy if he could credit 100 dollars for the phone   Par my puchase for 199 and he said yes and  put it on my account so really for the first 2 months I had 60 invested plus  a new ipne I very happy with it  so just talk to them and make sure u let them know ur not just another number <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  anyway I wish u alll luck with ur new iPhone</p>
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		<title>By: Ciel, Winnipeg, MB</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciel, Winnipeg, MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers&#039; a thief! We&#039;ve greater cellphone services in the Philippines! I only rely on my cellphone before I came to Canada. Even bought an open-line cellphone to use here, but only used it for a month. What&#039;s the deal with charging out-going and in coming text and calls? Its pretty stupid to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers&#039; a thief! We&#039;ve greater cellphone services in the Philippines! I only rely on my cellphone before I came to Canada. Even bought an open-line cellphone to use here, but only used it for a month. What&#039;s the deal with charging out-going and in coming text and calls? Its pretty stupid to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat, Montreal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat, Montreal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I can&#039;t say that I honestly hate Rogers, unlike everyone here; I signed with what I felt was an somewhat &quot;honest&quot; voice plan last June for what I&#039;m using, about 1500 minutes, mostly during the day.



But when I looked into the iPhone, I just couldn&#039;t believe they had no plan for existing voice users between 2megabytes and 6 gigabytes. The 2MB plan is less than 6 days of very light email-checking on the go, and it still costs $15 par month! For the 6GB, the price not only is still too high despite their special on it (30$ instead of $100), but if one wants it, he&#039;s forced to keep it for 3 years, even if better plans come out in the meantime. That&#039;s the strangest move from Rogers: not even offering intermediate plans, no 400MB such as the dedicated voice+data plan of the iPhone (which has a ridiculously small voice part, BTW)



I tried not to be too concerned with their rates, but considering how few emails and how much expensive is their least expensive plan, I have no choice but to bring the iPhone back to where I got it, sadly.



I may have considered to pay $10 more per month for, say, 500MB data (what I feel is enough for a light use of the iPhone on the go, with GPS and email browsing/answering), but not 50% more for 250% less.



They don&#039;t even provide any added-value! No SIM-unlocked iPhone (after all, there is only 1 GSM company here, customers can&#039;t escape anywhere), no unlimited data, no caller display and options free of charge, no way to report unused minutes on the next billing cycle, no nothing!



Let&#039;s not complain, Bell is so much worse. The truth is Rogers is using its dominant position in a captive market; there&#039;s simply no alternative; every cellular voice provider here in Canada has the same kind of rates, after counting various fees and taxes; never more than 3 to 4$ difference.



BTW, Koodo is a Telus subsidiary, not Rogers&#039;



Oh well, guess it&#039;s the way that Canada allows its businesses to do business; same goes with Videotron in Quebec, same with Bell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I can&#039;t say that I honestly hate Rogers, unlike everyone here; I signed with what I felt was an somewhat &#034;honest&#034; voice plan last June for what I&#039;m using, about 1500 minutes, mostly during the day.</p>
<p>But when I looked into the iPhone, I just couldn&#039;t believe they had no plan for existing voice users between 2megabytes and 6 gigabytes. The 2MB plan is less than 6 days of very light email-checking on the go, and it still costs $15 par month! For the 6GB, the price not only is still too high despite their special on it (30$ instead of $100), but if one wants it, he&#039;s forced to keep it for 3 years, even if better plans come out in the meantime. That&#039;s the strangest move from Rogers: not even offering intermediate plans, no 400MB such as the dedicated voice+data plan of the iPhone (which has a ridiculously small voice part, BTW)</p>
<p>I tried not to be too concerned with their rates, but considering how few emails and how much expensive is their least expensive plan, I have no choice but to bring the iPhone back to where I got it, sadly.</p>
<p>I may have considered to pay $10 more per month for, say, 500MB data (what I feel is enough for a light use of the iPhone on the go, with GPS and email browsing/answering), but not 50% more for 250% less.</p>
<p>They don&#039;t even provide any added-value! No SIM-unlocked iPhone (after all, there is only 1 GSM company here, customers can&#039;t escape anywhere), no unlimited data, no caller display and options free of charge, no way to report unused minutes on the next billing cycle, no nothing!</p>
<p>Let&#039;s not complain, Bell is so much worse. The truth is Rogers is using its dominant position in a captive market; there&#039;s simply no alternative; every cellular voice provider here in Canada has the same kind of rates, after counting various fees and taxes; never more than 3 to 4$ difference.</p>
<p>BTW, Koodo is a Telus subsidiary, not Rogers&#039;</p>
<p>Oh well, guess it&#039;s the way that Canada allows its businesses to do business; same goes with Videotron in Quebec, same with Bell</p>
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		<title>By: Dave McGhie, Vancouver, Canada</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/29/9000-canadians-petition-steve-jobs-for-iphone-rate-relief/#comment-12674</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave McGhie, Vancouver, Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE:

ROGERS LIED ABOUT CONTRACT!

Existimg customers beware!!!



We were told that this new data plan can be used with existing voice plan but what they didn&#039;t say is your existing voice plan nust also then be locked into a new 3 year contract also.



ROGERS MISS LEAD US AGAIN !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE:</p>
<p>ROGERS LIED ABOUT CONTRACT!</p>
<p>Existimg customers beware!!!</p>
<p>We were told that this new data plan can be used with existing voice plan but what they didn&#039;t say is your existing voice plan nust also then be locked into a new 3 year contract also.</p>
<p>ROGERS MISS LEAD US AGAIN !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ST Thomas, Ontario. Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>ST Thomas, Ontario. Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Text is rip off 15 cent per text!

Wha..a.. joke?

I&#039;m Deaf female and want use text often than voice.  Where fairness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Text is rip off 15 cent per text!</p>
<p>Wha..a.. joke?</p>
<p>I&#039;m Deaf female and want use text often than voice.  Where fairness?</p>
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		<title>By: North Vancouver</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Vancouver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L.O.L., L.O.L., L.O.L. .... Yes my friends this is very laughable and comic situation ... Very much, it is NOT Rogers Inc. or TelUs for change who too blame for all this, it is a Canadian Government, these fat politicians earning money doing nothing for Canada, who allow unconstitutional monopoly in our country! These mobile providers, they just take their chances ... like everybody else in business will do and does ... Look left &amp; right there is enough of it.



European mobile market place is a way different since there is a competition therefore price structure is a win-situation for customer.



Here in Canada we customers, we are like a dancer with wooden leg trying to win competition in tango contest! Sad, but truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L.O.L., L.O.L., L.O.L. &#8230;. Yes my friends this is very laughable and comic situation &#8230; Very much, it is NOT Rogers Inc. or TelUs for change who too blame for all this, it is a Canadian Government, these fat politicians earning money doing nothing for Canada, who allow unconstitutional monopoly in our country! These mobile providers, they just take their chances &#8230; like everybody else in business will do and does &#8230; Look left &amp; right there is enough of it.</p>
<p>European mobile market place is a way different since there is a competition therefore price structure is a win-situation for customer.</p>
<p>Here in Canada we customers, we are like a dancer with wooden leg trying to win competition in tango contest! Sad, but truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Candace - Brantford, ON.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace - Brantford, ON.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To every single person out there who will be canceling your current service through Rogers on the iPhone&#039;s release date, or all other boycotters, haters, or protesters otherwise .. Save your energy.

If you cancel .. you are likely to endure the hefty cancellation fee&#039;s (which you agreed to when you signed your agreement in the first place.)

If you boycott service by turning off your phone .. you will only lower the providers costs by not using the towers providing the services you are already paying for anyway - Giving the company slightly higher profit margins .. but every penny earned counts. So I&#039;m sure they wont mind.



Thirdly .. Everyone who thinks the prices are too high .. I fully agree with you. But look at it logistically.

Prices for services are and always will be based on a supply and demand basis.

We have a small fraction of the population of the States, hense .. we pay more for everything, including our cellular services. About %60 more on average actually. Steep huh?

If you don&#039;t understand that, take a business/marketing class.



I&#039;m not sure which of the previous commenters said it, but he was right. If you don&#039;t want to pay the price, don&#039;t buy the product.



The Best thing you can do as a consumer is get yourself well informed of all the products and services that are available to you and choose the one that best suits you. What is best for your best friend or your brother may not necessarily be what is best for you.

if anyone would like any assistance with such, feel free to email me. I am an individual who sells cellular services for a living through almost all of the main service providers in the Country. I am a heavily experienced (4 years) and non Biased Sales Person, with First Hand experience as a consumer and retailer with all providers as well; and I would be glad to assist.



Candace.

ielasic@hotmail.com



:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To every single person out there who will be canceling your current service through Rogers on the iPhone&#039;s release date, or all other boycotters, haters, or protesters otherwise .. Save your energy.</p>
<p>If you cancel .. you are likely to endure the hefty cancellation fee&#039;s (which you agreed to when you signed your agreement in the first place.)</p>
<p>If you boycott service by turning off your phone .. you will only lower the providers costs by not using the towers providing the services you are already paying for anyway &#8211; Giving the company slightly higher profit margins .. but every penny earned counts. So I&#039;m sure they wont mind.</p>
<p>Thirdly .. Everyone who thinks the prices are too high .. I fully agree with you. But look at it logistically.</p>
<p>Prices for services are and always will be based on a supply and demand basis.</p>
<p>We have a small fraction of the population of the States, hense .. we pay more for everything, including our cellular services. About %60 more on average actually. Steep huh?</p>
<p>If you don&#039;t understand that, take a business/marketing class.</p>
<p>I&#039;m not sure which of the previous commenters said it, but he was right. If you don&#039;t want to pay the price, don&#039;t buy the product.</p>
<p>The Best thing you can do as a consumer is get yourself well informed of all the products and services that are available to you and choose the one that best suits you. What is best for your best friend or your brother may not necessarily be what is best for you.</p>
<p>if anyone would like any assistance with such, feel free to email me. I am an individual who sells cellular services for a living through almost all of the main service providers in the Country. I am a heavily experienced (4 years) and non Biased Sales Person, with First Hand experience as a consumer and retailer with all providers as well; and I would be glad to assist.</p>
<p>Candace.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:ielasic@hotmail.com">ielasic@hotmail.com</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PM, Toronto, Ont.</title>
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		<dc:creator>PM, Toronto, Ont.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the aptly named &quot;Rob&quot; in toronto.

Koodo is a Rogers subsidiary (and I&#039;ve half a mind that you&#039;re a propagandist.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the aptly named &#034;Rob&#034; in toronto.</p>
<p>Koodo is a Rogers subsidiary (and I&#039;ve half a mind that you&#039;re a propagandist.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob, Toronto, Ontario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob, Toronto, Ontario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To those looking for better cell rate deals in Canada but not the iPhone should take a look at KOODO mobile. Better plans and prices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To those looking for better cell rate deals in Canada but not the iPhone should take a look at KOODO mobile. Better plans and prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick, Montreal, QC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick, Montreal, QC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogers has been sucking money out of canadian consumers&#039; wallet way before the 3G Iphone...



I&#039;m glad they don&#039;t get away with murder this time again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogers has been sucking money out of canadian consumers&#039; wallet way before the 3G Iphone&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#039;m glad they don&#039;t get away with murder this time again.</p>
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