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	<title>Comments on: What AT&amp;T pays Apple for the iPhone</title>
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		<title>By: Aaron Denver, CO</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12171</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Denver, CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since none of the commments actually come from anyone who works at at&amp;t mobility or Apple everyone&#039;s guess is just that ... a guess. A specualation.  When apple/at&amp;t sell the phone at full retail price, meaning the customer pays full price, not subsidize price then everyone will know how much it costs.  Apple did to cell phones is what Microsoft did to pc&#039;s ... changed everything and raised the bar.  Hmm... where have we heard that one before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since none of the commments actually come from anyone who works at at&amp;t mobility or Apple everyone&#039;s guess is just that &#8230; a guess. A specualation.  When apple/at&amp;t sell the phone at full retail price, meaning the customer pays full price, not subsidize price then everyone will know how much it costs.  Apple did to cell phones is what Microsoft did to pc&#039;s &#8230; changed everything and raised the bar.  Hmm&#8230; where have we heard that one before?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric, Pasadena, CA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12170</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric, Pasadena, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty easy to figure out the actual price of the iphone.  In California the consumer pays tax on the full price of the phone, not the price paid.  For instance, for my 8 GB iphone 3G I paid $32.92 in tax, which puts the iPhone 3G 8GB price at $399.  Therefore, ATT is paying $200 subsidy for each 8 GB iphone 3G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s pretty easy to figure out the actual price of the iphone.  In California the consumer pays tax on the full price of the phone, not the price paid.  For instance, for my 8 GB iphone 3G I paid $32.92 in tax, which puts the iPhone 3G 8GB price at $399.  Therefore, ATT is paying $200 subsidy for each 8 GB iphone 3G.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter, Toronto Ontario</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12169</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter, Toronto Ontario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cancelrogers.com/ is calling for a Mass cancellation on July 11 2008 over the iPhone plans that Canadian providers Rogers is offering... Vote in their poll!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cancelrogers.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cancelrogers.com/</a> is calling for a Mass cancellation on July 11 2008 over the iPhone plans that Canadian providers Rogers is offering&#8230; Vote in their poll!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald/Atl., GA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12168</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald/Atl., GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iwant - a phone, so I bought a Samsung Blackjack. I already have a HP laptop for net surfing, e-mail etc. Why pay more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iwant &#8211; a phone, so I bought a Samsung Blackjack. I already have a HP laptop for net surfing, e-mail etc. Why pay more?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Rybold, Irvine, CA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12167</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Rybold, Irvine, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the Apple message boards are Yahoo, we&#039;ve been analyzing this for about a week now.  In your figures, the $199 and the $325 appear to be redundant.  Either add the $100 to the $199 or else add it to the $325.  http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_A/threadview?m=tm&amp;bn=60&amp;tid=2057571&amp;mid=2057571&amp;tof=-1&amp;rt=1&amp;frt=2&amp;off=1



ex ped: I&#039;d like to see your reasoning, but there&#039;s no analysis in the Yahoo message boards link you provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Apple message boards are Yahoo, we&#039;ve been analyzing this for about a week now.  In your figures, the $199 and the $325 appear to be redundant.  Either add the $100 to the $199 or else add it to the $325.  <a href="http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_A/threadview?m=tm&amp;bn=60&amp;tid=2057571&amp;mid=2057571&amp;tof=-1&amp;rt=1&amp;frt=2&amp;off=1" rel="nofollow">http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_%28A_to_Z%29/Stocks_A/threadview?m=tm&amp;bn=60&amp;tid=2057571&amp;mid=2057571&amp;tof=-1&amp;rt=1&amp;frt=2&amp;off=1</a></p>
<p>ex ped: I&#039;d like to see your reasoning, but there&#039;s no analysis in the Yahoo message boards link you provide.</p>
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		<title>By: JG (Toms River, NJ)</title>
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		<dc:creator>JG (Toms River, NJ)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;apple will get $200 the price of the phone,apple is in interested in itune sales,apple is a music seller,1000 -99 cent songs is a $1000 the more itunes on people phones and computers the more music they can sell&quot;



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Can someone please translate this into English for the rest of us? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;apple will get $200 the price of the phone,apple is in interested in itune sales,apple is a music seller,1000 -99 cent songs is a $1000 the more itunes on people phones and computers the more music they can sell&#034;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Can someone please translate this into English for the rest of us? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: John, Rochester NH</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12165</link>
		<dc:creator>John, Rochester NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe this bullsh*t at all. I have No idea where Yair whats his name gets his facts, but  as I understand, AT&amp;T and Steve Jobs have a very agreeable understandment that AT&amp;T will take on the service end and offer the exceptional high speed service the new 3G will need, in return, Apple stores will sell the new 3G in their stores under strict conditions the phone is set up with an AT&amp;T contract before it leaves the store&#039;s doors. This is total speculation! especially taken into consideration, Apple&#039;s new iPhone, does not have to have an AT&amp;T contract outside the USA. This is how the market is being influenced. *Pure speculation,,,! and these analysts (speculators) should be held accountable for huge losses, just like the credit scammers are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not believe this bullsh*t at all. I have No idea where Yair whats his name gets his facts, but  as I understand, AT&amp;T and Steve Jobs have a very agreeable understandment that AT&amp;T will take on the service end and offer the exceptional high speed service the new 3G will need, in return, Apple stores will sell the new 3G in their stores under strict conditions the phone is set up with an AT&amp;T contract before it leaves the store&#039;s doors. This is total speculation! especially taken into consideration, Apple&#039;s new iPhone, does not have to have an AT&amp;T contract outside the USA. This is how the market is being influenced. *Pure speculation,,,! and these analysts (speculators) should be held accountable for huge losses, just like the credit scammers are!</p>
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		<title>By: jmmx Portland OR</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12164</link>
		<dc:creator>jmmx Portland OR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it, Reiner&#039;s figures appear reasonable.



So Apple gets avg 250 / phone (half 8 &amp; half 16MB) + 325 (according to Reiner.) then, what percentage are new ATT customers? 1/8 ??? 12%?

That would be another $12 per unit



total 587 average. Pretty darn good!



Of course remember, not all the foreign carriers will be paying this - tho I imagine something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it, Reiner&#039;s figures appear reasonable.</p>
<p>So Apple gets avg 250 / phone (half 8 &amp; half 16MB) + 325 (according to Reiner.) then, what percentage are new ATT customers? 1/8 ??? 12%?</p>
<p>That would be another $12 per unit</p>
<p>total 587 average. Pretty darn good!</p>
<p>Of course remember, not all the foreign carriers will be paying this &#8211; tho I imagine something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Yev, LA, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yev, LA, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we get a pop on this rumor, or a slam down, I don&#039;t know.  Seems only negative rumors drive the stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do we get a pop on this rumor, or a slam down, I don&#039;t know.  Seems only negative rumors drive the stock.</p>
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		<title>By: cd san francisco</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/19/what-att-pays-apple-for-the-iphone/#comment-12162</link>
		<dc:creator>cd san francisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apple will get $200 the price of the phone,apple is in interested in  itune sales,apple is a music seller,1000 -99 cent songs is a $1000 the more itunes on people phones and computers the more music they can sell</description>
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