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	<title>Comments on: Why HP is smart to gamble on EDS</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/05/12/why-hp-is-smart-to-gamble-on-eds/#comment-33638</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFter 30 years in the computer business I give you fair warning EDS will strip HP dry.  Look what they did to General Motors Corporation.

Just a matter of time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFter 30 years in the computer business I give you fair warning EDS will strip HP dry.  Look what they did to General Motors Corporation.</p>
<p>Just a matter of time!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul, PA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/05/12/why-hp-is-smart-to-gamble-on-eds/#comment-4919</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all too comical. People from EDS and HP both complaining that benefits and compensation for employees diminished 5 years ago. Seems to coincide with the massive offshoring trend that exploded in recent times. When is the US going to wake up? It&#039;s throwing its talent to the lions...



What the US needs is to start balancing the shets here. To reduce the massive unemployment rate, it needs to bring it&#039;s industrial jobs back from China, and Service positions back from India. Neither is providing quality in its respective market. To do so, all gov&#039;t has to implement is a tax system that burdens these CEOs and thus makes it a negligible benefit to offshore anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s all too comical. People from EDS and HP both complaining that benefits and compensation for employees diminished 5 years ago. Seems to coincide with the massive offshoring trend that exploded in recent times. When is the US going to wake up? It&#039;s throwing its talent to the lions&#8230;</p>
<p>What the US needs is to start balancing the shets here. To reduce the massive unemployment rate, it needs to bring it&#039;s industrial jobs back from China, and Service positions back from India. Neither is providing quality in its respective market. To do so, all gov&#039;t has to implement is a tax system that burdens these CEOs and thus makes it a negligible benefit to offshore anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Yalcin EDS Switzerland, Zurich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yalcin EDS Switzerland, Zurich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does somebody know how much money Mr. Wittenmeyer got when he was retired in december 2008 - I heard an amount of 55 million dollars? End of January many people in Switzeland will lose their jobs at EDS and on top of that some of their savings in their pension funds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does somebody know how much money Mr. Wittenmeyer got when he was retired in december 2008 &#8211; I heard an amount of 55 million dollars? End of January many people in Switzeland will lose their jobs at EDS and on top of that some of their savings in their pension funds.</p>
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		<title>By: dark knight, Mainland China</title>
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		<dc:creator>dark knight, Mainland China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is an EDS-HP office in the middle-of-nowhere in China.  98% of the employees graduated recently from run-off-the-mill tech colleges and universities of rural china.  most of them do not have adequate education.  I think the only reason they are there is because they only receive the equivalent of US$250 per month salary with hardly any other benefits.  Does the quality of the service suffer?  What do you guys think?  You get what you pay for.  I am NOT an American, I&#039;m not even in the US.  But if the US is the engine for the world&#039;s economy, why are people Stateside not yet going to their President or Senate or Congress?  Once and for all, we should put an end to this nonsense of &quot;OFFSHORING&quot; and &quot;OUTSOURCING&quot;.  WTO deals and so-called &quot;Globalization&quot; is killing the US and subsequently, the global economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is an EDS-HP office in the middle-of-nowhere in China.  98% of the employees graduated recently from run-off-the-mill tech colleges and universities of rural china.  most of them do not have adequate education.  I think the only reason they are there is because they only receive the equivalent of US$250 per month salary with hardly any other benefits.  Does the quality of the service suffer?  What do you guys think?  You get what you pay for.  I am NOT an American, I&#039;m not even in the US.  But if the US is the engine for the world&#039;s economy, why are people Stateside not yet going to their President or Senate or Congress?  Once and for all, we should put an end to this nonsense of &#034;OFFSHORING&#034; and &#034;OUTSOURCING&#034;.  WTO deals and so-called &#034;Globalization&#034; is killing the US and subsequently, the global economy.</p>
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		<title>By: ex-EDSer, Singapore, Singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>ex-EDSer, Singapore, Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, after reading through the various comments, I can only conclude that the company is &quot;represented&quot; by the Leader(s) in the particular country.



It has been my privilege to work for EDS for many years and my loss not to have worked in HP.  I guess at the end of it, the rise and fall of the company is in the hands of the leaders that &quot;run or ruin&quot; it!



Hope that those who have been eliminated will find peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, after reading through the various comments, I can only conclude that the company is &#034;represented&#034; by the Leader(s) in the particular country.</p>
<p>It has been my privilege to work for EDS for many years and my loss not to have worked in HP.  I guess at the end of it, the rise and fall of the company is in the hands of the leaders that &#034;run or ruin&#034; it!</p>
<p>Hope that those who have been eliminated will find peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonomys, Oslo, Norway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonomys, Oslo, Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry. In my other comment I predicted:



HP will slaughter EDS.



Now, Mr. Hurd have communicated 26 400 positions to be, and I quote: &quot;Eliminated&quot;.



Former EDS personell will prolly suffer the most.

It&#039;s all about the stakeholders, never mind about employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry. In my other comment I predicted:</p>
<p>HP will slaughter EDS.</p>
<p>Now, Mr. Hurd have communicated 26 400 positions to be, and I quote: &#034;Eliminated&#034;.</p>
<p>Former EDS personell will prolly suffer the most.</p>
<p>It&#039;s all about the stakeholders, never mind about employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous, Norway, Norway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous, Norway, Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ended up in HP because the company I worked for outsourced its IT services. HP is a terrible company to work for. It&#039;s like working in a MLM sales organization; profit, profit, profit. Forget pay rises, bonuses or benefits. Management grab those for themselves. Forget career developement. You&#039;re stuck in the job you&#039;re in until they can outsource your function to India - then your&#039;re fired.



We&#039;re told that we&#039;re being transferred to EDS - I was hoping that would improve the situation (how can it get worse?) but from what I read here I guess I shouldn&#039;t get my hopes up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ended up in HP because the company I worked for outsourced its IT services. HP is a terrible company to work for. It&#039;s like working in a MLM sales organization; profit, profit, profit. Forget pay rises, bonuses or benefits. Management grab those for themselves. Forget career developement. You&#039;re stuck in the job you&#039;re in until they can outsource your function to India &#8211; then your&#039;re fired.</p>
<p>We&#039;re told that we&#039;re being transferred to EDS &#8211; I was hoping that would improve the situation (how can it get worse?) but from what I read here I guess I shouldn&#039;t get my hopes up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonomys, Oslo, Norway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonomys, Oslo, Norway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m seeing it from a nother perspective. As a former employee of Digital..later aquired by Compaq...as a Compaq employee ending up in HP.

Beware guys!



HP are ruthless. In the country I worked (Norway), HP conducted an ethnic cleaning process in the merger.



Merger? No, takeover.



I found &quot;management&quot; staff in HP to be a bunch of liers. By the time I was due to be laid off, it happened after a process where I could document lies.

You all heard &quot;Nokia, connecting people!&quot; ...well, I changed it a bit...&quot;Nokia, recording people!&quot; Turned out to be my Ace of Spades negotiating the package.



Who thinks that there were any consequences for the &quot;management&quot; people involved? If yes, think again.

HP will slaughter EDS.



Why does this interrest me now...so many years later? Yes...due to the fact that EDS takes (or did by 01.07.08) over a lot of IT personell from a major global dutch oil company.



I work there myself...and yes...I see the signs already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m seeing it from a nother perspective. As a former employee of Digital..later aquired by Compaq&#8230;as a Compaq employee ending up in HP.</p>
<p>Beware guys!</p>
<p>HP are ruthless. In the country I worked (Norway), HP conducted an ethnic cleaning process in the merger.</p>
<p>Merger? No, takeover.</p>
<p>I found &#034;management&#034; staff in HP to be a bunch of liers. By the time I was due to be laid off, it happened after a process where I could document lies.</p>
<p>You all heard &#034;Nokia, connecting people!&#034; &#8230;well, I changed it a bit&#8230;&#034;Nokia, recording people!&#034; Turned out to be my Ace of Spades negotiating the package.</p>
<p>Who thinks that there were any consequences for the &#034;management&#034; people involved? If yes, think again.</p>
<p>HP will slaughter EDS.</p>
<p>Why does this interrest me now&#8230;so many years later? Yes&#8230;due to the fact that EDS takes (or did by 01.07.08) over a lot of IT personell from a major global dutch oil company.</p>
<p>I work there myself&#8230;and yes&#8230;I see the signs already.</p>
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		<title>By: The hardworking, TX, US</title>
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		<dc:creator>The hardworking, TX, US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an EDSer for more than a decade with this company.  I agreed with some of the comments here that we are unfortunately working in the company that has a bunch of thugs on the top running the show.  That is a scary thought, isn&#039;t it?  But it is very true.  If anyone watched the townhall where Ron called some of the EDSers in the room bunch of wussies because they did not dare to ask him a question, then you will agree with me.  The account where I work is very much the same.  The management here do not even acknowlege that you exist.  They will not even say &quot;hi&quot; to you when they bumped into you down the hallway.  I know that HP is not that much better but since we are already one level below hell, there is no way to go but up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an EDSer for more than a decade with this company.  I agreed with some of the comments here that we are unfortunately working in the company that has a bunch of thugs on the top running the show.  That is a scary thought, isn&#039;t it?  But it is very true.  If anyone watched the townhall where Ron called some of the EDSers in the room bunch of wussies because they did not dare to ask him a question, then you will agree with me.  The account where I work is very much the same.  The management here do not even acknowlege that you exist.  They will not even say &#034;hi&#034; to you when they bumped into you down the hallway.  I know that HP is not that much better but since we are already one level below hell, there is no way to go but up.</p>
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		<title>By: Yours Truly, LA, US</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yours Truly, LA, US</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, am welcoming HP with open arms. As an EDS employee for decades - I&#039;ve watched our company go from great, to fair, to terrible. I&#039;m not sure what the EDS Board of Directors were thinking when they brought on the likes of &#039;tricky&#039; Dick Brown or the Buffoon Ron Rittenmeyer, but I for one look forward to the departure of these hack and slash, smiley faced, follow me or the highway mentality Management. As most EDS employees have stated &quot;it can&#039;t get any worse than it already is&quot;. In all my years in IT I have never seen such an incompetent bunch of yahoos as I do today running this once great company. Thank God for the hard working employees of EDS. You are what keeps this company alive!! As far as I&#039;m concerned, Ron and his cloneys can take their million dollar buyouts and please... hit the road. You certainly won&#039;t be missed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, am welcoming HP with open arms. As an EDS employee for decades &#8211; I&#039;ve watched our company go from great, to fair, to terrible. I&#039;m not sure what the EDS Board of Directors were thinking when they brought on the likes of &#039;tricky&#039; Dick Brown or the Buffoon Ron Rittenmeyer, but I for one look forward to the departure of these hack and slash, smiley faced, follow me or the highway mentality Management. As most EDS employees have stated &#034;it can&#039;t get any worse than it already is&#034;. In all my years in IT I have never seen such an incompetent bunch of yahoos as I do today running this once great company. Thank God for the hard working employees of EDS. You are what keeps this company alive!! As far as I&#039;m concerned, Ron and his cloneys can take their million dollar buyouts and please&#8230; hit the road. You certainly won&#039;t be missed.</p>
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