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	<title>Comments on: iPhone: European fire sales spreading to France</title>
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		<title>By: Joe, NJ</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10625</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe, NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i-phones are selling fast in US because ASIA market are selling it.  You can buy unlock i-phones in Asia with same competetive price in Apple US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i-phones are selling fast in US because ASIA market are selling it.  You can buy unlock i-phones in Asia with same competetive price in Apple US.</p>
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		<title>By: Nodack Phoenix AZ</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10624</link>
		<dc:creator>Nodack Phoenix AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;what is wrong with these hostile itards? They jump all over everyone who says anything not completly praising.&quot;



&quot;I think the iPhone needs a higher res camera.&quot;



That would be an example of a comment that wasn&#039;t completely praising.



&quot;I think another problem is that many Europeans will not touch the iPhone until it gains 3G support, as I believe most networks in Europe are already 3G and customers don’t want to downgrade their bandwidth. Hopefully the 3G iPhone comes this summer as expected.&quot;



That would be another example of a comment that wasn&#039;t completely praising.



The comment I was reffering to was.



&quot;In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that.&quot;



Having used a lot of phones and PDA&#039;s and being frustrated at them all, I really appreciate the iPhone. It has been one of the most  useful things I have ever owned and a major leap forward from any other PDA/Cell phone I have ever used. When somebody that obviously doesn&#039;t own one and obviously isn&#039;t a Mac fan in any way   comes on and says &quot;In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that.&quot; I will write a smart alex comment back every time.



Your &quot;nuff said Iphones suck&quot; was a poor example of somebody not completely praising the iPhone. I took it as somebody being hostile and jumping all over somebody &quot;like of heyenas&quot; as you called it, but didn&#039;t come up with a catchy slogan like itard to insult you back. I&#039;ll have to work on it and get back to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;what is wrong with these hostile itards? They jump all over everyone who says anything not completly praising.&#034;</p>
<p>&#034;I think the iPhone needs a higher res camera.&#034;</p>
<p>That would be an example of a comment that wasn&#039;t completely praising.</p>
<p>&#034;I think another problem is that many Europeans will not touch the iPhone until it gains 3G support, as I believe most networks in Europe are already 3G and customers don’t want to downgrade their bandwidth. Hopefully the 3G iPhone comes this summer as expected.&#034;</p>
<p>That would be another example of a comment that wasn&#039;t completely praising.</p>
<p>The comment I was reffering to was.</p>
<p>&#034;In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that.&#034;</p>
<p>Having used a lot of phones and PDA&#039;s and being frustrated at them all, I really appreciate the iPhone. It has been one of the most  useful things I have ever owned and a major leap forward from any other PDA/Cell phone I have ever used. When somebody that obviously doesn&#039;t own one and obviously isn&#039;t a Mac fan in any way   comes on and says &#034;In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that.&#034; I will write a smart alex comment back every time.</p>
<p>Your &#034;nuff said Iphones suck&#034; was a poor example of somebody not completely praising the iPhone. I took it as somebody being hostile and jumping all over somebody &#034;like of heyenas&#034; as you called it, but didn&#039;t come up with a catchy slogan like itard to insult you back. I&#039;ll have to work on it and get back to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Macdisser,Bronx,N.Y.</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10623</link>
		<dc:creator>Macdisser,Bronx,N.Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is wrong with these hostile itards? They jump all over everyone who says anything not completly praising. Whether its Joe from N.Y. citing legitimate complaints about the iphone or Elmer Dewitt. You guys jump all over them like of heyenas. Iphones dont sell in Europe because consumers are smart enough to buy here with the weak dollar and Europe has way better phones nuff said Iphones suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is wrong with these hostile itards? They jump all over everyone who says anything not completly praising. Whether its Joe from N.Y. citing legitimate complaints about the iphone or Elmer Dewitt. You guys jump all over them like of heyenas. Iphones dont sell in Europe because consumers are smart enough to buy here with the weak dollar and Europe has way better phones nuff said Iphones suck.</p>
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		<title>By: Nodack Phoenix AZ</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10622</link>
		<dc:creator>Nodack Phoenix AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that…&quot;



Rubbish phone, LOL! I use the iPhone because it IS the best phone on the market.  Some phones might have a better gps, G3 or a higher res camera etc, but all other phone&#039;s SUCK when you compare the software and user experience. RIMM is scrambling to come up with an answer to the iPhone and their first attempt at an iPhone copy failed miserably. The second generation iPhone is coming in June and  it&#039;s coming after the business market that RIMM owns now and RIMM is scared to death as they should be.



&quot;Well, I still don’t have a cell phone, and from all of the worthless conversation I hear CONSTANTLY going on around me about 99.99% of those who have ‘em, don’t need ‘em. And prolly about 98.99% shouldn’t be allowed to have ‘em.&quot;



LOL... I suppose there would be a lot less meaningless conversations going on if you had to communicate using smoke signals like you must be using.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that…&#034;</p>
<p>Rubbish phone, LOL! I use the iPhone because it IS the best phone on the market.  Some phones might have a better gps, G3 or a higher res camera etc, but all other phone&#039;s SUCK when you compare the software and user experience. RIMM is scrambling to come up with an answer to the iPhone and their first attempt at an iPhone copy failed miserably. The second generation iPhone is coming in June and  it&#039;s coming after the business market that RIMM owns now and RIMM is scared to death as they should be.</p>
<p>&#034;Well, I still don’t have a cell phone, and from all of the worthless conversation I hear CONSTANTLY going on around me about 99.99% of those who have ‘em, don’t need ‘em. And prolly about 98.99% shouldn’t be allowed to have ‘em.&#034;</p>
<p>LOL&#8230; I suppose there would be a lot less meaningless conversations going on if you had to communicate using smoke signals like you must be using.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis D., Fremont, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis D., Fremont, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have a touch, it has given me screen crashing problems several times, if listening to music and try to use Safari - Safari would crash. then the whole thing froze and went black twice. inexcusable for an item that cost $400 and is less than 6 months old. i even had to send it back to Apple for reformatting. with that said, i like my touch very much and happy to have it.



even though my touch has frustrated me several times, i am anxious to buy an iPhone 2.0. 32gb, phone, music, video, 3g network - for whatever it&#039;s worth, quality interactive video games, MSFT exchange, weather, stocks, email, SMS, IM service, hopeful 3 mp camera, and endless new SDK programs coming - why would i not want this? all it needs is removable battery, break from ATT, and better international service plan.



i&#039;m excited about the new iPhones this summer and will definitely buy one. i think many people are holding on buying one now, to get one in 3-4 months. makes no sense to buy one now when you can wait and get a better one soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have a touch, it has given me screen crashing problems several times, if listening to music and try to use Safari &#8211; Safari would crash. then the whole thing froze and went black twice. inexcusable for an item that cost $400 and is less than 6 months old. i even had to send it back to Apple for reformatting. with that said, i like my touch very much and happy to have it.</p>
<p>even though my touch has frustrated me several times, i am anxious to buy an iPhone 2.0. 32gb, phone, music, video, 3g network &#8211; for whatever it&#039;s worth, quality interactive video games, MSFT exchange, weather, stocks, email, SMS, IM service, hopeful 3 mp camera, and endless new SDK programs coming &#8211; why would i not want this? all it needs is removable battery, break from ATT, and better international service plan.</p>
<p>i&#039;m excited about the new iPhones this summer and will definitely buy one. i think many people are holding on buying one now, to get one in 3-4 months. makes no sense to buy one now when you can wait and get a better one soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik, Paris, France</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10620</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik, Paris, France</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anecdotal info: in my office in France, US purchased unlocked iPhones outnumber locally purchased iPhones 2 to 1. Of 6, 4 are unlocked and 2 were bought at Orange.



Primary reasons: cost difference with the exchange rate and carrier loyalty. It&#039;s unsurprising that US sales are through the roof and lackluster in Europe. Current exchange puts an iPhone at around 277€ vs 399€.

There are another 4-6 people waiting on a 3G model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anecdotal info: in my office in France, US purchased unlocked iPhones outnumber locally purchased iPhones 2 to 1. Of 6, 4 are unlocked and 2 were bought at Orange.</p>
<p>Primary reasons: cost difference with the exchange rate and carrier loyalty. It&#039;s unsurprising that US sales are through the roof and lackluster in Europe. Current exchange puts an iPhone at around 277€ vs 399€.</p>
<p>There are another 4-6 people waiting on a 3G model.</p>
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		<title>By: Walwus, Jacksonville, FL</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10619</link>
		<dc:creator>Walwus, Jacksonville, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;3G CrybabiesWhen you get the 3G model and it’s just not that much faster that the EDGE model...,&quot;

Um, Ellen, Edge runs at around 300kbps and 3G runs at around 7Mbps. Anyone that downloads porn on their phone will tell you faster is better.



&quot;I’ve been waiting on the 3G to come out so that I can get a 2G at a discount...,&quot;

Rob, if you can find a 2G model of anything I would be high suspicious of it BECAUSE IT DOESN&quot;T EXSIST!!!!



Jake? I want to introduce you to something I like to call Lithium, (used to treat Bi-Polar people for those who don&#039;t know, and Jake obvisouly suffers from it)



Now, Apple was thinking they could bowl over the European market like they did the US market but in Europe everyone can buy whatever phone they like and use it on whatever carrier they like so why give up that freedom of choice and choose a substandard carrier like Orange just to use a paticular model phone? The fact that Apple is not selling as well overseas has nothing to do with the quality of the phone and everything to do with the poor business model they choose to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;3G CrybabiesWhen you get the 3G model and it’s just not that much faster that the EDGE model&#8230;,&#034;</p>
<p>Um, Ellen, Edge runs at around 300kbps and 3G runs at around 7Mbps. Anyone that downloads porn on their phone will tell you faster is better.</p>
<p>&#034;I’ve been waiting on the 3G to come out so that I can get a 2G at a discount&#8230;,&#034;</p>
<p>Rob, if you can find a 2G model of anything I would be high suspicious of it BECAUSE IT DOESN&#034;T EXSIST!!!!</p>
<p>Jake? I want to introduce you to something I like to call Lithium, (used to treat Bi-Polar people for those who don&#039;t know, and Jake obvisouly suffers from it)</p>
<p>Now, Apple was thinking they could bowl over the European market like they did the US market but in Europe everyone can buy whatever phone they like and use it on whatever carrier they like so why give up that freedom of choice and choose a substandard carrier like Orange just to use a paticular model phone? The fact that Apple is not selling as well overseas has nothing to do with the quality of the phone and everything to do with the poor business model they choose to use.</p>
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		<title>By: William, Phx AZ</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10618</link>
		<dc:creator>William, Phx AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems very simple.  Apple needs to keep iphones understocked in the U.S. so scalpers don&#039;t get them and sell them to Europe for a 60% profit.  They are playing the exchange rate game with inventory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems very simple.  Apple needs to keep iphones understocked in the U.S. so scalpers don&#039;t get them and sell them to Europe for a 60% profit.  They are playing the exchange rate game with inventory.</p>
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		<title>By: CW, Düsseldorf</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/19/iphone-european-fire-sales-spreading-to-france/#comment-10617</link>
		<dc:creator>CW, Düsseldorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that...we have at least 10 phones on the market that are better than the I-Phone...Nifty touchscreen but on a cell phone i rather get the LG touch screen than the I Phone no UMTS etc. etc. just a phone that is not ready for the european market just too many things missing...and why buy an I-Phone if you can get a RIMM?Unless you are an Apple freak...!!!kind regards from Germany</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Europe we do not need a rubbish phone like that&#8230;we have at least 10 phones on the market that are better than the I-Phone&#8230;Nifty touchscreen but on a cell phone i rather get the LG touch screen than the I Phone no UMTS etc. etc. just a phone that is not ready for the european market just too many things missing&#8230;and why buy an I-Phone if you can get a RIMM?Unless you are an Apple freak&#8230;!!!kind regards from Germany</p>
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		<title>By: Jake from NYNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake from NYNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I still don&#039;t have a cell phone, and from all of the worthless conversation I hear CONSTANTLY going on around me about 99.99% of those who have &#039;em, don&#039;t need &#039;em.  And prolly about 98.99% shouldn&#039;t be allowed to have &#039;em.  Mark this:  Coming soon to a web site/newspaper/radio near you:  &quot;Today in downtown, city of your choice, three women pounced on &amp; whipped the shit out of a fourth who just wouldn&#039;t SHUT UP!&quot;  &quot;Today a gangbanger in, cit of yr choice, crawled out of her demolished vechicle and wasted the woman on her phone that totalled her car.  The woman had just called her lawyer.&quot;  &quot;Girls from the H%$Gschool posted cell phone footage to Glueyatodatube of them whipping the crap outta their close frien&#039; and confidant jus&#039; fer fun.&quot;  Oh, right, the last one all ready happens dang near everyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I still don&#039;t have a cell phone, and from all of the worthless conversation I hear CONSTANTLY going on around me about 99.99% of those who have &#039;em, don&#039;t need &#039;em.  And prolly about 98.99% shouldn&#039;t be allowed to have &#039;em.  Mark this:  Coming soon to a web site/newspaper/radio near you:  &#034;Today in downtown, city of your choice, three women pounced on &amp; whipped the shit out of a fourth who just wouldn&#039;t SHUT UP!&#034;  &#034;Today a gangbanger in, cit of yr choice, crawled out of her demolished vechicle and wasted the woman on her phone that totalled her car.  The woman had just called her lawyer.&#034;  &#034;Girls from the H%$Gschool posted cell phone footage to Glueyatodatube of them whipping the crap outta their close frien&#039; and confidant jus&#039; fer fun.&#034;  Oh, right, the last one all ready happens dang near everyday.</p>
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