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	<title>Comments on: Analyst: BlackBerry is &quot;primitive&quot; compared with iPhone 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: Clarence, Philadelphia, PA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/10/analyst-blackberry-is-primitive-compared-with-iphone-20/#comment-10524</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence, Philadelphia, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys need to read the actual report that Wolf wrote. The author of this article only takes all the negative aspects of the report and ignores the positives that Wolf recognizes in respect to RIM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys need to read the actual report that Wolf wrote. The author of this article only takes all the negative aspects of the report and ignores the positives that Wolf recognizes in respect to RIM.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve, SE Mass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve, SE Mass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have both the iphone on ATT and a BB 8830 on Verizon.  About 20% of the places I travel in New England the ATT iphone has unacceptable-to-no coverage while the BB on Verizon never NEVER fails. If 3g helps matters I&#039;ll be first in line for the new iphone, but the BB is unfortunately a must because of it&#039;s tactile keyboard and as a wireless modem for both my Dell laptop AND my new Mackbook Air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have both the iphone on ATT and a BB 8830 on Verizon.  About 20% of the places I travel in New England the ATT iphone has unacceptable-to-no coverage while the BB on Verizon never NEVER fails. If 3g helps matters I&#039;ll be first in line for the new iphone, but the BB is unfortunately a must because of it&#039;s tactile keyboard and as a wireless modem for both my Dell laptop AND my new Mackbook Air.</p>
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		<title>By: Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... where to start?



iPhone is for surfing the net.



BB is for e-mail and text messaging.





That&#039;s the compromise. I don’t see how iPhone can be a great messaging tool without a keypad.  If people just want an all in one device, the market would be filled with 7 inch laptops a long time ago. Most business models are 10 – 12 inch, why? That’s because any smaller size screen makes the computer less useable. All the devices out there are about compromises. BB can add new software features to match apple but the design is what going to keep them apart. iPhone cannot replace laptop computers nor can it replace BB. If iPhone is so great, why is EEE selling so well? All these devices have their purposes. People buy bb for messaging and iPhone for web and media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; where to start?</p>
<p>iPhone is for surfing the net.</p>
<p>BB is for e-mail and text messaging.</p>
<p>That&#039;s the compromise. I don’t see how iPhone can be a great messaging tool without a keypad.  If people just want an all in one device, the market would be filled with 7 inch laptops a long time ago. Most business models are 10 – 12 inch, why? That’s because any smaller size screen makes the computer less useable. All the devices out there are about compromises. BB can add new software features to match apple but the design is what going to keep them apart. iPhone cannot replace laptop computers nor can it replace BB. If iPhone is so great, why is EEE selling so well? All these devices have their purposes. People buy bb for messaging and iPhone for web and media.</p>
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		<title>By: bassel ojjeh, palo alto ca</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/04/10/analyst-blackberry-is-primitive-compared-with-iphone-20/#comment-10521</link>
		<dc:creator>bassel ojjeh, palo alto ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sir, my hips don&#039;t lie. My left hip has carried a BB for almost 10 years. No other device had such an honor until the iPhone came out. Unfortunately, after a week of using the iPhone it wasn&#039;t  able to displace my BB so now i carry it on my right hip.

the limitations of the iPhone usage are too many to list yet its the darn sexiest design you would expected.

I cannot believe apple, the creators of copy/paste, would ship any software without such feature.

I do though think web browsing has finally been made possible on handheld devices through the iPhone. It beats the BB by miles.



Btw, I recall the end of the BB was predicted by analysts back in the late 90s when Microsoft announced Windows CE. Then analysts predicted the same when Palm announced the Treo.



last I checked niether was the case. Lets see if apple proves to be a good student of others failures.

Thanks

Bassel Ojjeh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sir, my hips don&#039;t lie. My left hip has carried a BB for almost 10 years. No other device had such an honor until the iPhone came out. Unfortunately, after a week of using the iPhone it wasn&#039;t  able to displace my BB so now i carry it on my right hip.</p>
<p>the limitations of the iPhone usage are too many to list yet its the darn sexiest design you would expected.</p>
<p>I cannot believe apple, the creators of copy/paste, would ship any software without such feature.</p>
<p>I do though think web browsing has finally been made possible on handheld devices through the iPhone. It beats the BB by miles.</p>
<p>Btw, I recall the end of the BB was predicted by analysts back in the late 90s when Microsoft announced Windows CE. Then analysts predicted the same when Palm announced the Treo.</p>
<p>last I checked niether was the case. Lets see if apple proves to be a good student of others failures.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Bassel Ojjeh</p>
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		<title>By: Frank C,New York,NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank C,New York,NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;future&quot; is already here, you can connect your blackberry to a projector and do a presentation sans laptop.  the setup is fairly cheap outside of the projector.  And unless I&#039;m mistaken TOUCH PDA has been around since the early Palm through Windows Mobile .. Iphone brings a new GUI that is responsive and can be manipulated, Cool stuff indeed.



The point is the majority of business will continue to deploy Blackberry as it meets the need and is cheaper. Having a better web experience isn&#039;t a business driver, your likely looking at 2Q 2009 to guage what kind of presence Apple with have in the corporate world.



I do know that policies have already been added that cover ALL types of personal data devices and that they are not allowed, so users can buy all the shiny new toys they want, unless it&#039;s company provided - leave it at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#034;future&#034; is already here, you can connect your blackberry to a projector and do a presentation sans laptop.  the setup is fairly cheap outside of the projector.  And unless I&#039;m mistaken TOUCH PDA has been around since the early Palm through Windows Mobile .. Iphone brings a new GUI that is responsive and can be manipulated, Cool stuff indeed.</p>
<p>The point is the majority of business will continue to deploy Blackberry as it meets the need and is cheaper. Having a better web experience isn&#039;t a business driver, your likely looking at 2Q 2009 to guage what kind of presence Apple with have in the corporate world.</p>
<p>I do know that policies have already been added that cover ALL types of personal data devices and that they are not allowed, so users can buy all the shiny new toys they want, unless it&#039;s company provided &#8211; leave it at home.</p>
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		<title>By: John, Milwaukee</title>
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		<dc:creator>John, Milwaukee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackberry isn&#039;t going to die anytime soon anymore than mainframes or Cobol did. They&#039;re too engulfed to just easily remove.



They will, though, begin losing market share. The touch interface is the future. An important feature of the iPhone that&#039;s missed is the easy ability to zoom in and zoom out. It&#039;s a main reason why iPhone users actually use their iPhones to browse the web 10 times more than other &quot;smart phone&quot; users. While now just a cute feature for the consumer, imagine being a business user in the middle of a meeting and able to do that with an Excel file that your boss just e-mailed you. Imagine not needing to take your laptop to a presentation, because you can use plug in your iPhone instead. That&#039;s the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackberry isn&#039;t going to die anytime soon anymore than mainframes or Cobol did. They&#039;re too engulfed to just easily remove.</p>
<p>They will, though, begin losing market share. The touch interface is the future. An important feature of the iPhone that&#039;s missed is the easy ability to zoom in and zoom out. It&#039;s a main reason why iPhone users actually use their iPhones to browse the web 10 times more than other &#034;smart phone&#034; users. While now just a cute feature for the consumer, imagine being a business user in the middle of a meeting and able to do that with an Excel file that your boss just e-mailed you. Imagine not needing to take your laptop to a presentation, because you can use plug in your iPhone instead. That&#039;s the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom, FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love an iPhone but I won&#039;t use AT&amp;T&#039;s service. I will wait 4 more years and stick with my Black Berry on Verizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d love an iPhone but I won&#039;t use AT&amp;T&#039;s service. I will wait 4 more years and stick with my Black Berry on Verizon.</p>
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		<title>By: Nunya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nunya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So if consumers are the purpose why does apple have such interest in corporate pentration?&quot;



There wasn&#039;t a blanket statement that &#039;consumers are the purpose&#039;.  It&#039;s a statement that RIMM&#039;s recent growth spurt was driven by some success in the consumer segment.  The unspoken assumption was that if said growth spurt is going to continue, then it will be driven by continued success in the consumer market since RIMM owns the business market.  The iPhone is a threat to that continued success in the consumer segment.



Even if that threat materializes, RIMM still could make a great pile of money in the business segment.  But that would not sustain the growth spurt and consequently the high multiple that the stock shows currently.



Why is Apple interested in the business segment?  Duh.  It&#039;s additional money that could be within reach as the iPhone matures beyond its first generation.



The dynamic of people using things provided by work or compatible with what they use at work is well-known.  But the number of people who have smart phones &#039;provided for free&#039; by their work is a very small chunk of the total consumer market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;So if consumers are the purpose why does apple have such interest in corporate pentration?&#034;</p>
<p>There wasn&#039;t a blanket statement that &#039;consumers are the purpose&#039;.  It&#039;s a statement that RIMM&#039;s recent growth spurt was driven by some success in the consumer segment.  The unspoken assumption was that if said growth spurt is going to continue, then it will be driven by continued success in the consumer market since RIMM owns the business market.  The iPhone is a threat to that continued success in the consumer segment.</p>
<p>Even if that threat materializes, RIMM still could make a great pile of money in the business segment.  But that would not sustain the growth spurt and consequently the high multiple that the stock shows currently.</p>
<p>Why is Apple interested in the business segment?  Duh.  It&#039;s additional money that could be within reach as the iPhone matures beyond its first generation.</p>
<p>The dynamic of people using things provided by work or compatible with what they use at work is well-known.  But the number of people who have smart phones &#039;provided for free&#039; by their work is a very small chunk of the total consumer market.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Bucks, NY,NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Bucks, NY,NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIMM has new phones too and the wifeless service providers push them because they are more efficient for data and use 1/100 of the data capacity of the network operators capacity something the writer has no clue of...This is key to massive future growth no other Handset maker has there own data network (a secure one)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIMM has new phones too and the wifeless service providers push them because they are more efficient for data and use 1/100 of the data capacity of the network operators capacity something the writer has no clue of&#8230;This is key to massive future growth no other Handset maker has there own data network (a secure one)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Alexander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to throw my primitive phone away if the ipod could be used with verizon.  can&#039;t wait</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d love to throw my primitive phone away if the ipod could be used with verizon.  can&#039;t wait</p>
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