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Closing in on the 3G iPhone


iphone-o2.pngEver since Steve Jobs told the British press last September that they could "expect a 3G iPhone late next year," the question has been not "if" but "when" exactly.

Speculation grew in October when Broadcom began delivering samples of what it called a "3G Phone on a Chip" (link) and again in November when AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson promised that we'd "have it next year" at whatever price Jobs decides to set.

Now, with less than three months before Apple's (AAPL) Worldwide Developers Conference (June 9-13), we're getting a flurry of leaks and rumors offering fresh details about the 3G iPhone and zeroing in on a late-May to June release.

  • Last Friday, Digg founder Kevin Rose, who has a mixed record on iPhone predictions, told the audience for his Diggnation podcast that the 3G iPhone would have live video-conferencing capabilities. (YouTube link)
  • On Tuesday, Gartner Group analyst Ken Delaney told iPod Observer that slower than expected sales in Europe for the EDGE-based iPhone had increased pressure on Apple to release a 3G model, and that according to his Asian sources Apple had ordered "a second round of 10 million iPhones based on the 3G network."
  • On Wednesday, Digg's Rose followed up on his Friday podcast with a Twitter post in which he reports that a high level vice president with a big company that works with Apple told him that the new iPhone "will ship in June w/3G and GPS."
  • Reflecting the newly reported 3G iPhone build plans, BMO Capital Markets' Keith Bachman on Thursday raised his bearish 2008 estimate of 8.5 million iPhones to 9.9 million, just a hair under Apple's own target of 10 million. Even his new estimate, he now says, may prove conservative.

Jobs' keynote address at the WWDC that second week in June would seem a logical moment to reveal the new phone, of course. But that's what many observers thought last year, when they predicted that Jobs would release the original iPhone at the end of his speech. Instead, Apple began selling the phone a few weeks later, on June 29.

The most detailed speculation we've read to date about the likely specs of the new iPhone is still Seth Weinraub's "best guesses," posted in mid-February in his Apple, Ink column at Computerworld.

powerful phone, i wish i could get it, but i have verizon. Discuss about this phone at http://www.3G-iPhones.org

Posted By hackensack, NJ: July 11, 2008 11:28 PM

I think we have to remember that there are a lot of hardware challenges when coming out with a 3G phone. More specifically, the RF power amplifiers required for WCDMA (3G) require better linearity…which means they use a lot more power. With everything else on the iphone…power consumption is already a big concern. Thus, i will be surprised if Apple offers a mere firmware change. I doubt that the RF front is capable of handling 3G…so I expect that the new phone will have some hardware changes as well.

Posted By David Hall, Austin Tx: May 17, 2008 1:27 PM

Firstly the web browsing is much faster on 3G than on your EDGE system, I use 3G when im in the UK and edge when im in a third world country (US?).

The video call function seems like it would be fun/usefull but in reality it is just a gimmic that rearley gets usen in Europe, Indeed there are now a number of 3G phones that dont support this feature(sony Ericsson w850?)

It would be a shame though if the Iphone2.0 gained 3G but lost WiFi.

Posted By Ian Colledge, Durham UK: May 16, 2008 3:44 PM

This is interesting; I hope that a 3G iPhone comes out soon. I don't feel ripped off by Apple at all, but there is one thing that I found interesting: I took my iPhone's SIM card out for no reason (that's me) and I saw "3G" on it. Maybe iPhones are already capable of 3G networking, or maybe it just means that this is some 3rd generation of SIM card.

Posted By Anonymous: May 13, 2008 6:37 PM

The two posters claiming the iPhone's processor or browser are the real bottleneck to surfing speed need only activate its WiFi connection on a hotspot with a decent broadband WAN link to debunk that myth. The browser and processor are plenty fast enough to rip through the graphics-heavy sites I frequent.

3G (while still ont WiMax) will definitely improve browsing speed on the device. Most other carriers cache their web content, thereby nullifying most of their 2G/3G speed improvements (Blazer on Verizon's and Sprint's Treos comes to mind) -if anything, THIS is where a bottleneck might be realized with AT&T (if at all).

Posted By Brett, Reston VA: May 13, 2008 2:31 PM

3G does not allow simultaneous voice/data – only certain phones with specific hardware can do that. Voice comms over 3g have NO DIFFERENCE in quality as they are still circuit switched – if anything the wider 2G/GSM network is more reliable. Only 4G VoIP will have complete packet-switched comms.

Posted By Leeds: May 11, 2008 12:42 PM

EDGE allows data transfer around 200Kb, while 3G allows 3.5 Gb.

Posted By Axel – Brussels, belgium: April 1, 2008 11:03 AM

for people who already have an iPhone, i would hope the 3g capability willl be a free downloadable software upgrade. for someone like me who doesn't have an iPhone this is great, because i have been waiting for this release before i buy one. my sympathy for those who bought the now worthless, no re-sale value 4GB phones. i hope this iPhone 2.0 will also be 32GB. never buy 1st generation anything, people – patience is a great thing!

Posted By Travis, Fremont CA: March 31, 2008 5:17 PM

I can't help but think us consumers are getting ripped off. Just as soon as the original iPhone has finally been rolled out worldwide; rumours start about a new 3G version. Apple could easily have released a 3G version to begin with but I guess if you can get people to pay for an iPhone twice why not take their money!

Posted By James, Dublin, Ireland: March 29, 2008 5:15 PM

To Freddy – no, the point of 3G is: faster data speeds, better voice quality than GSM (assuming that full-rate codecs are used), and simultaneous voice and data capability. In practice, 3G isn't really that much faster than EDGE when surfing on the phone itself – the phone's processor is a bottleneck there. But when tethered to a laptop, the speed differecne between 3G and EDGE is very apparent, though 3G tends to have higher latency than traditional broadband cable or DSL.

Posted By Dan, Boston, MA: March 28, 2008 1:52 PM

Well, isn't the main point of 3g so that it can work around the world on networks other than At&T's?

Posted By FreddyFreeloader, SF, CA: March 28, 2008 1:44 PM

Come to papa!

Posted By Geoff, Atlanta, GA: March 27, 2008 4:50 PM

I don't think the 3G web-surfing experience will be that much faster than EDGE when surfing on the phone itself. It's when tethering to a laptop that it makes a huge difference. The processor on a phone is the real bottleneck.

Posted By Dan, Boston, MA: March 27, 2008 4:01 PM

Most people have speculated June would be the 3G iPhone release date. I'm still not convinced that 3G is going to be that much faster than the edge but, if it will get people to stop complaining about it then I'm game. Video conferencing. I haven't heard of that news before. That would be sweet.

Posted By Nodack Phoenix AZ: March 27, 2008 2:33 PM
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Steve Jobs, goes the old joke at Apple, is surrounded by a reality distortion field; get too close and you might believe what he's saying. Apple has made believers out of millions of customers — and made a lot of investors rich — but Elmer-DeWitt believes that an ounce of skepticism never hurts when writing about the company. He should know. He's been covering Apple – and watching Steve Jobs operate — since 1982.
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