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		<title>By: JAy., Houston, TX</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/03/18/apple-enthusiasts-vs-the-tech-press/#comment-9962</link>
		<dc:creator>JAy., Houston, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hardly .. sorry I disagree it’s us consumers and the will for Apple to listen to our opinion that makes Apple improve it’s products..&quot;



If ny - your comment only supports how seriously fans of a technology think they really are.  If you don&#039;t think that Apple has development teams reading every computer review they can find, you are delusional.  This is something that every company does.  Yes, I am sure Apple listens to it users.  But they monitor the press just the same.



By the way, &lt;a href=&quot;http://c-c-rblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-does-appl-attract-so-much-vehemence.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I wrote on this same topic several months ago&lt;/a&gt;.  And I don&#039;t care one way or the other regarding computing.  I just want something that works and does what I need it to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Hardly .. sorry I disagree it’s us consumers and the will for Apple to listen to our opinion that makes Apple improve it’s products..&#034;</p>
<p>If ny &#8211; your comment only supports how seriously fans of a technology think they really are.  If you don&#039;t think that Apple has development teams reading every computer review they can find, you are delusional.  This is something that every company does.  Yes, I am sure Apple listens to it users.  But they monitor the press just the same.</p>
<p>By the way, <a href="http://c-c-rblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-does-appl-attract-so-much-vehemence.html" rel="nofollow">I wrote on this same topic several months ago</a>.  And I don&#039;t care one way or the other regarding computing.  I just want something that works and does what I need it to do.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker, Utah</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker, Utah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the truth about Apple computers: A toy is a toy is a toy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s the truth about Apple computers: A toy is a toy is a toy.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris, Neptune, NJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris, Neptune, NJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony here is that most of the response posts provide evidence for the premise of the article. The &quot;hard core&quot; fans on either side really need to get a grip. You love your machines? Great! Use them and be happy. Oh and by the way, let every else enjoy theirs, be they Mac or PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony here is that most of the response posts provide evidence for the premise of the article. The &#034;hard core&#034; fans on either side really need to get a grip. You love your machines? Great! Use them and be happy. Oh and by the way, let every else enjoy theirs, be they Mac or PC.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis,  Phoenix Arizona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis,  Phoenix Arizona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC users have Faith...



Apple computer users have confidence...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC users have Faith&#8230;</p>
<p>Apple computer users have confidence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jmmx - Portland OR</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmmx - Portland OR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also add however-



Apple aficionados actually have good reason to be a bit sensitive about the press. Over the years the press has treated Apple pretty badly overall, denigrating the products and their possibilities and forever underestimating the growth.



I mean - I actually had someone tell me about 12 years ago, that a Mac was not a real computer - only a &quot;toy.&quot; This level of ignorance was perpetuated by the press.



But the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and now that millions have had a taste, we are seeing a &quot;flight to quality&quot; - exactly what Apple aficionados have been saying all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also add however-</p>
<p>Apple aficionados actually have good reason to be a bit sensitive about the press. Over the years the press has treated Apple pretty badly overall, denigrating the products and their possibilities and forever underestimating the growth.</p>
<p>I mean &#8211; I actually had someone tell me about 12 years ago, that a Mac was not a real computer &#8211; only a &#034;toy.&#034; This level of ignorance was perpetuated by the press.</p>
<p>But the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and now that millions have had a taste, we are seeing a &#034;flight to quality&#034; &#8211; exactly what Apple aficionados have been saying all along.</p>
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		<title>By: jmmx - Portland OR</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/03/18/apple-enthusiasts-vs-the-tech-press/#comment-9959</link>
		<dc:creator>jmmx - Portland OR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - this is interesting.



A couple of the comments here seem to prove the pint.



The problem with comments like these is that - while they may be true about SOME people, they are definitely NOT true about MOST of the Apple fans. Sure - there is the radical fringe who are hyper-sensitive about the smallest slight. The overwhelming majority of Apple users - and Apple fans - are really a lot more moderate in their views. Yes they may be very enthusiastic about the products, but they do not indulge in inflammatory postings at any minor criticism.



And so - the article, by focusing on the most outrageous &quot;fanboys&quot; presents an extreme stereotyping of the generally more moderate population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; this is interesting.</p>
<p>A couple of the comments here seem to prove the pint.</p>
<p>The problem with comments like these is that &#8211; while they may be true about SOME people, they are definitely NOT true about MOST of the Apple fans. Sure &#8211; there is the radical fringe who are hyper-sensitive about the smallest slight. The overwhelming majority of Apple users &#8211; and Apple fans &#8211; are really a lot more moderate in their views. Yes they may be very enthusiastic about the products, but they do not indulge in inflammatory postings at any minor criticism.</p>
<p>And so &#8211; the article, by focusing on the most outrageous &#034;fanboys&#034; presents an extreme stereotyping of the generally more moderate population.</p>
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		<title>By: zlk, Budapest, Hungary</title>
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		<dc:creator>zlk, Budapest, Hungary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the tech press&quot; is manipulative. You probably wanted to write &quot;the press&quot; but the word tech makes it seem more competent. Well, I thought the media is pluralistic, there is no &quot;the tech press&quot; to be victimized against those subjective fans, who put there money where their mouth is.

A little more objectivity please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;the tech press&#034; is manipulative. You probably wanted to write &#034;the press&#034; but the word tech makes it seem more competent. Well, I thought the media is pluralistic, there is no &#034;the tech press&#034; to be victimized against those subjective fans, who put there money where their mouth is.</p>
<p>A little more objectivity please.</p>
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		<title>By: paoul, rio, br</title>
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		<dc:creator>paoul, rio, br</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Reality Distortion Field?&lt;/B&gt;&#160; You&#039;ve got it in spades, DeWitt. You&#039;re so jaundiced, you can&#039;t even see where you&#039;ve lost your way. Your credibility is moot when you try to convince us that you&#039;ve been fair and balanced -- if that&#039;s your point here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Reality Distortion Field?</b>&nbsp; You&#039;ve got it in spades, DeWitt. You&#039;re so jaundiced, you can&#039;t even see where you&#039;ve lost your way. Your credibility is moot when you try to convince us that you&#039;ve been fair and balanced &#8212; if that&#039;s your point here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Dan, Pittsburgh, PA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Dan, Pittsburgh, PA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a user of both platforms, I&#039;ve enjoyed your &quot;neutral enough&quot; column and just rolled my eyes at the occasional PC Nutcase vs. Apple Fanatic blowups, scanning past them to get to the worthwhile content.

That said, I do understand where some of the frustration that drives these Apple guys comes from.



A few years ago I wanted to buy a cheap, small, portable laptop.  I looked at every PC model out there - I&#039;d only used PCs since I gave up my last DOS, and it took me a while to accept DOS after CP/M.  All the 12&quot; screens were obscenely expensive except for a no-name WalMart model that looked and felt like junk.  Finally, I stumbled across the 12&quot; iBook for $999, which included wireless, a dvd reader, hi-res screen, workable software, and (from the vendor) a free (good) laptop bag, printer/scanner, eabuds, memory upgrade, earphones, and shipping.  No PC system came close except for a 15&quot; Dell without WiFi and an ADVERTISED 1.5 hour battery life.  So, I bought my first Mac, which has been a pleasure to own.



That month, PC Magazine had a Laptop review, and compared two dozen laptops in several categories by size and speed.  The 12&quot; iBook, inexplicably, wasn&#039;t compared to any 12&quot; laptops (the cheapest of which was over $2,000) though the 15&quot; iBook was mentioned, only compared to a Powerbook (&quot;it&#039;s slower.&quot;)  All Macs were dismissed with admitted good performance and battery life, but at a premium price, even though at that time the 12&quot; iBook would have been half the price of any similarly-sized, identically configured model.



Shortly after that, Consumer Reports&#039; Laptop Roundup admitted that the iBooks were reliable, powerful, and loved by their owners in surveys, but added that Apples are &quot;usually more expensive than PCs.&quot;  Again and again over the next year, few reviewers seemed able to admit that Apple had the lowest price in a laptop size.  On the rare occasions that 12&quot; iBooks were actually compared to other 12&quot; portables, they were deemed slower than laptops costing 2 to 3 times as much, but the price wasn&#039;t discussed, nore were PowerBooks. Alternately, when PowerBooks were mentioned as being too expensive, iBooks were somehow never discussed.  At the time, it really did seem like reviewers were either blind or in someone&#039;s pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a user of both platforms, I&#039;ve enjoyed your &#034;neutral enough&#034; column and just rolled my eyes at the occasional PC Nutcase vs. Apple Fanatic blowups, scanning past them to get to the worthwhile content.</p>
<p>That said, I do understand where some of the frustration that drives these Apple guys comes from.</p>
<p>A few years ago I wanted to buy a cheap, small, portable laptop.  I looked at every PC model out there &#8211; I&#039;d only used PCs since I gave up my last DOS, and it took me a while to accept DOS after CP/M.  All the 12&#034; screens were obscenely expensive except for a no-name WalMart model that looked and felt like junk.  Finally, I stumbled across the 12&#034; iBook for $999, which included wireless, a dvd reader, hi-res screen, workable software, and (from the vendor) a free (good) laptop bag, printer/scanner, eabuds, memory upgrade, earphones, and shipping.  No PC system came close except for a 15&#034; Dell without WiFi and an ADVERTISED 1.5 hour battery life.  So, I bought my first Mac, which has been a pleasure to own.</p>
<p>That month, PC Magazine had a Laptop review, and compared two dozen laptops in several categories by size and speed.  The 12&#034; iBook, inexplicably, wasn&#039;t compared to any 12&#034; laptops (the cheapest of which was over $2,000) though the 15&#034; iBook was mentioned, only compared to a Powerbook (&#034;it&#039;s slower.&#034;)  All Macs were dismissed with admitted good performance and battery life, but at a premium price, even though at that time the 12&#034; iBook would have been half the price of any similarly-sized, identically configured model.</p>
<p>Shortly after that, Consumer Reports&#039; Laptop Roundup admitted that the iBooks were reliable, powerful, and loved by their owners in surveys, but added that Apples are &#034;usually more expensive than PCs.&#034;  Again and again over the next year, few reviewers seemed able to admit that Apple had the lowest price in a laptop size.  On the rare occasions that 12&#034; iBooks were actually compared to other 12&#034; portables, they were deemed slower than laptops costing 2 to 3 times as much, but the price wasn&#039;t discussed, nore were PowerBooks. Alternately, when PowerBooks were mentioned as being too expensive, iBooks were somehow never discussed.  At the time, it really did seem like reviewers were either blind or in someone&#039;s pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron, Orlando, Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron, Orlando, Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple user since 86.



If we &quot;mac&quot; people are overzealous and outspoken about our computer of choice, then PC people are the ivory tower arrogant &quot;banker&quot; types who have been trying to justify their computer choice since the beginning.



For 10 years, I tried to keep my mouth shut at the snickering, the look of &quot;oh, you&#039;re one of THEM&quot; whenever computer choice came up.  I tried to avoid it like the plague, not because I wasn&#039;t happy with my choice, but because pc types were all united in their dislike of the products - even though, in a serious discussion, I could easily refute every stupid reason they gave for it being a bad choice.



Karma is a bitch.  Call me a zealot all you want, I&#039;ve listened to, and been subject of jokes and ridicule since the beginning - for no other reason than I don&#039;t have &quot;right-click.&quot;



If all you PC people would just admit you have been wrong all these years, there would be no problem.  ;)



To show my love for pc users, here&#039;s a tip (and you don&#039;t even have to by a mac) -   Buy the stock and you can have as many pc&#039;s as you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple user since 86.</p>
<p>If we &#034;mac&#034; people are overzealous and outspoken about our computer of choice, then PC people are the ivory tower arrogant &#034;banker&#034; types who have been trying to justify their computer choice since the beginning.</p>
<p>For 10 years, I tried to keep my mouth shut at the snickering, the look of &#034;oh, you&#039;re one of THEM&#034; whenever computer choice came up.  I tried to avoid it like the plague, not because I wasn&#039;t happy with my choice, but because pc types were all united in their dislike of the products &#8211; even though, in a serious discussion, I could easily refute every stupid reason they gave for it being a bad choice.</p>
<p>Karma is a bitch.  Call me a zealot all you want, I&#039;ve listened to, and been subject of jokes and ridicule since the beginning &#8211; for no other reason than I don&#039;t have &#034;right-click.&#034;</p>
<p>If all you PC people would just admit you have been wrong all these years, there would be no problem.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To show my love for pc users, here&#039;s a tip (and you don&#039;t even have to by a mac) &#8211;   Buy the stock and you can have as many pc&#039;s as you want.</p>
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