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	<title>Comments on: Apple polishes its MacBook and MacBook Pro product lines</title>
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		<title>By: Peter, Ottawa, ON, Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter, Ottawa, ON, Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Au contraire, Windows would not be here without Apple. MS has been trying to produce GUI like Apple&#039;s since OS 7. We&#039;dall be using some version of DOS if it weren&#039;t for the Apple OS. Remember, Bill Gates said that no one would ever need more than 640Kb of RAM when the Macintosh Plus came out.



And about Docking Stations, I can plug Keyboards, mice and DVI Monitors directly into a MacBook and utilize both screens independantly. No need for a docking station.



It just works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Au contraire, Windows would not be here without Apple. MS has been trying to produce GUI like Apple&#039;s since OS 7. We&#039;dall be using some version of DOS if it weren&#039;t for the Apple OS. Remember, Bill Gates said that no one would ever need more than 640Kb of RAM when the Macintosh Plus came out.</p>
<p>And about Docking Stations, I can plug Keyboards, mice and DVI Monitors directly into a MacBook and utilize both screens independantly. No need for a docking station.</p>
<p>It just works.</p>
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		<title>By: chris, dallas, tTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris, dallas, tTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok.......all of you guys are going crazy. it not a big deal, do what you want and dont be a jerk...if you think about, apple would not be here if it wasnt for windows, so all of you guys are insecure...i got on here too help me make a decision and all i find is a bunch of unnecasary arguing...GET A LIFE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok&#8230;&#8230;.all of you guys are going crazy. it not a big deal, do what you want and dont be a jerk&#8230;if you think about, apple would not be here if it wasnt for windows, so all of you guys are insecure&#8230;i got on here too help me make a decision and all i find is a bunch of unnecasary arguing&#8230;GET A LIFE</p>
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		<title>By: musicbymicah Kansas City, MO</title>
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		<dc:creator>musicbymicah Kansas City, MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone said something about memory and a docking station.



WTF?



First, plenty of RAM and hard disk space are what keep Apple&#039;s computers on the front of the curve.  You could buy a computer with a half-gig of RAM, but then you&#039;ll behind in the next year.  Opt out.  That&#039;s fine.  You&#039;ll soon be complaining that your PC, desktop or laptop, can&#039;t run current webpages or new applications.



Get a mac and use it for the next...  I don&#039;t know...  7 YEARS.  It can work.  This G4 I&#039;m on was made in &#039;01.  It&#039;s as fast as any bottom-rung current PC.



Docking station?  WTF?!



Welcome to 2008.  Almost everything is USB, or better yet, BLUETOOTH.  I&#039;m sorry you bought an ancient camera and prefer jogging memory cards than plugging in the cable.  Get off your @$$ and plug it in.



So...  Again, opt out.  Keep using obsolete technology.  There&#039;s no better way to run your business or LIFE.  Save a buck.  So, you can afford the McD&#039;s dollar menu.  I&#039;ll go home and eat something fresh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone said something about memory and a docking station.</p>
<p>WTF?</p>
<p>First, plenty of RAM and hard disk space are what keep Apple&#039;s computers on the front of the curve.  You could buy a computer with a half-gig of RAM, but then you&#039;ll behind in the next year.  Opt out.  That&#039;s fine.  You&#039;ll soon be complaining that your PC, desktop or laptop, can&#039;t run current webpages or new applications.</p>
<p>Get a mac and use it for the next&#8230;  I don&#039;t know&#8230;  7 YEARS.  It can work.  This G4 I&#039;m on was made in &#039;01.  It&#039;s as fast as any bottom-rung current PC.</p>
<p>Docking station?  WTF?!</p>
<p>Welcome to 2008.  Almost everything is USB, or better yet, BLUETOOTH.  I&#039;m sorry you bought an ancient camera and prefer jogging memory cards than plugging in the cable.  Get off your @$$ and plug it in.</p>
<p>So&#8230;  Again, opt out.  Keep using obsolete technology.  There&#039;s no better way to run your business or LIFE.  Save a buck.  So, you can afford the McD&#039;s dollar menu.  I&#039;ll go home and eat something fresh.</p>
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		<title>By: Nodack Phoenix AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nodack Phoenix AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just ordered the 15&quot; Macbook Pro for my wife to replace the three and a half year old one her mother dropped on the floor accidently. Somehow the old one still works fine even though the case was split open from the fall.



BTW use whatever computer makes you happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ordered the 15&#034; Macbook Pro for my wife to replace the three and a half year old one her mother dropped on the floor accidently. Somehow the old one still works fine even though the case was split open from the fall.</p>
<p>BTW use whatever computer makes you happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu, Austin, TX</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu, Austin, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Intel iMac is the best Windows XP machine I&#039;ve ever used.  That is the trump card in this entire &quot;debate&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Intel iMac is the best Windows XP machine I&#039;ve ever used.  That is the trump card in this entire &#034;debate&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Smith, Reno NV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Smith, Reno NV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC -

Car -



You choose which to use for the purpose you use it and the enjoyment if gives you.



If your happy with it by the end of the day good for you.</description>
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<p>Car -</p>
<p>You choose which to use for the purpose you use it and the enjoyment if gives you.</p>
<p>If your happy with it by the end of the day good for you.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidW, San Bruno, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DavidW, San Bruno, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted by Awin, CA



&quot;Why Apple does not allow MacOSX to be run on non-apple intel machine? Monopoly!!&quot;



Think again. Only differently.



It&#039;s the same reason why Halo3 isn&#039;t available for PlayStation3.



It&#039;s the same reason why you can&#039;t buy a cup of Starbuck coffee at Pete&#039;s Coffee.



It&#039;s the same reason why you can&#039;t buy a Whopper at a MacDonalds.



And I won&#039;t even go in to how you think an %8 market share constitutes a monopoly.



If you&#039;re going to play the game, at least put some thought into your post. Good grammer also helps but not necessary. As long as you get your message across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted by Awin, CA</p>
<p>&#034;Why Apple does not allow MacOSX to be run on non-apple intel machine? Monopoly!!&#034;</p>
<p>Think again. Only differently.</p>
<p>It&#039;s the same reason why Halo3 isn&#039;t available for PlayStation3.</p>
<p>It&#039;s the same reason why you can&#039;t buy a cup of Starbuck coffee at Pete&#039;s Coffee.</p>
<p>It&#039;s the same reason why you can&#039;t buy a Whopper at a MacDonalds.</p>
<p>And I won&#039;t even go in to how you think an %8 market share constitutes a monopoly.</p>
<p>If you&#039;re going to play the game, at least put some thought into your post. Good grammer also helps but not necessary. As long as you get your message across.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous, San Francisco, California</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous, San Francisco, California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Clark Kent

I find many of your statement to be inaccurate and childish. Though I am not defending &#039;those who just like to fling dung, eat it&#039; I do believe that you have done quite a bit of that yourself (just to be fair).



I have been a Mac user for almost a year now, though I own two Windows PC&#039;s (one Vista, one XP) and one Linux system (Ubuntu/Gentoo). So I think I can say I have been around the block on OSes.



To rebuke some of your statements a little:

&#039;The reason there is less viruses for Mac is because 85% of the world uses PC&#039;

This reason is stated as a fact and with a statistic I think might be made up (unless you can site a source). I will give you the benefit of the doubt however. I can agree that one of the reasons there are less viruses is because Mac&#039;s have a lower market share. You attribute that to be the only reason (or the highest) which may not be true. Mac&#039;s have a unix underpinning with a completely different security model from Windows based systems. Indeed Vista has tried to move closer to a more secure model similar to Apple&#039;s a little. This in and of itself would potentially make it more difficult to make viruses. Unix has been around for sometime and its security model has been throughly tested as it has managed many systems including those bank use (a prime target for viruses or hacks). So if you look at it from that point of few, though Mac and Unix are very different, Mac OS X is based upon something which has become secure over time.



Fair enough, Mac have updates, even if it was 100% secure it would still have updates. Not all updates are security. Some address issues such as crashing, additional features (Itunes added video rentals recently), but yes they do also have security updates.



No offense intended, but just because you have had both and have had a poor experience does not mean that I must also have a poor experience and need to admit anything I have not had. Video streaming not being compatible on websites may be true for some. YouTube works fine, CNN works, some sites have required I get the free WMA plugin, but thats fine. They have chosen to use a Microsoft technology (their right) and there is a free tool to do so. Some sites block by region as well and may make it look like a Mac cannot play something when if you go to a different country you will be able to. Many sites I have also noticed that have only been supporting PC&#039;s are starting to support Mac&#039;s. It takes time, but I would rather see a dual standard of Mac&#039;s and PC&#039;s instead of everyone just using PC&#039;s. There are some sites I have gone to on my PC that my PC cannot play (or stream from) but my Mac can. (Admittedly not as many, but I think the number I encounter will decrease for both systems over time as more people recognize they can support both systems).



As for my PC and me being the reason of the crash, can you elaborate. If I double click on a program, and do nothing more and my system crashes, do you consider that my fault? If I encounter a bug, that eventually gets listed on Microsoft&#039;s website as a bug which causes the system to crash, is that my fault? One of the number one problems I have encountered have been driver issues which are the result of companies such as NVidia with poor drivers or poor driver support in Vista. Microsoft has some hand in making the system the way they are. DLL&#039;s did not have a good reputation at one point, the registry many consider to be a mess. Microsoft is trying to clean this up, but I cannot say that the majority of the time as crash is my fault. I don&#039;t believe that, especially when I treat my computer well.



Mac&#039;s are for children is a statement out of no where. I don&#039;t know how to respond to that. I guess I consider myself a child at heart, but I use my Mac in a professional workspace. So do many colleagues. I think a comment such as that shows little depth and I won&#039;t respond to that any further as thats just mud slinging.



Again, your arguments afterwards start to be more insulting then trying to make points. You make a point about buying microsoft office. Yes, that is a standard. Many people use it. Just as on Windows many people rush off to download Adobe PDF viewer. They don&#039;t on the Mac as preview supports it. TextEdit can further open word doc&#039;s because it is so popular. I don&#039;t see much of a point here.



The PC Saved Apple point is sort of interesting, but I am not sure what you think you are referring to. It sounds to me like your referring to the Microsoft Apple deal. That did occur. There is quite a bit of history there and I find it interesting and invite you to research it. In one sense, one could argue Apple made Microsoft.



You state Mac&#039;s will always be behind PC&#039;s. You seem quite confident, Apple&#039;s market share is going up. Many companies are beginning to develop Mac Versions. I have personally never found a shortage of Applications. I have actually found the number of applications available to be growing quite rapidly. Many of the things I want, browsing the web, word processing, video are all available. Yes, even Games. World of Warcraft upon which a friend of mine plays (I invite you to check out http://www.macgamesandmore.com/ or http://www.apple.com/games/ and please browse around and don&#039;t just look at the front page).



Anyways, I have tried to answer many of your points, but not all. I think most can be answered with a bit of research or better asked with also a bit of research. I am not saying all your points are wrong, I am just saying that you loose quite a bit of credibility when you start &#039;mud-slinging&#039; or appearing to make up stats (which you may or may not have done)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Clark Kent</p>
<p>I find many of your statement to be inaccurate and childish. Though I am not defending &#039;those who just like to fling dung, eat it&#039; I do believe that you have done quite a bit of that yourself (just to be fair).</p>
<p>I have been a Mac user for almost a year now, though I own two Windows PC&#039;s (one Vista, one XP) and one Linux system (Ubuntu/Gentoo). So I think I can say I have been around the block on OSes.</p>
<p>To rebuke some of your statements a little:</p>
<p>&#039;The reason there is less viruses for Mac is because 85% of the world uses PC&#039;</p>
<p>This reason is stated as a fact and with a statistic I think might be made up (unless you can site a source). I will give you the benefit of the doubt however. I can agree that one of the reasons there are less viruses is because Mac&#039;s have a lower market share. You attribute that to be the only reason (or the highest) which may not be true. Mac&#039;s have a unix underpinning with a completely different security model from Windows based systems. Indeed Vista has tried to move closer to a more secure model similar to Apple&#039;s a little. This in and of itself would potentially make it more difficult to make viruses. Unix has been around for sometime and its security model has been throughly tested as it has managed many systems including those bank use (a prime target for viruses or hacks). So if you look at it from that point of few, though Mac and Unix are very different, Mac OS X is based upon something which has become secure over time.</p>
<p>Fair enough, Mac have updates, even if it was 100% secure it would still have updates. Not all updates are security. Some address issues such as crashing, additional features (Itunes added video rentals recently), but yes they do also have security updates.</p>
<p>No offense intended, but just because you have had both and have had a poor experience does not mean that I must also have a poor experience and need to admit anything I have not had. Video streaming not being compatible on websites may be true for some. YouTube works fine, CNN works, some sites have required I get the free WMA plugin, but thats fine. They have chosen to use a Microsoft technology (their right) and there is a free tool to do so. Some sites block by region as well and may make it look like a Mac cannot play something when if you go to a different country you will be able to. Many sites I have also noticed that have only been supporting PC&#039;s are starting to support Mac&#039;s. It takes time, but I would rather see a dual standard of Mac&#039;s and PC&#039;s instead of everyone just using PC&#039;s. There are some sites I have gone to on my PC that my PC cannot play (or stream from) but my Mac can. (Admittedly not as many, but I think the number I encounter will decrease for both systems over time as more people recognize they can support both systems).</p>
<p>As for my PC and me being the reason of the crash, can you elaborate. If I double click on a program, and do nothing more and my system crashes, do you consider that my fault? If I encounter a bug, that eventually gets listed on Microsoft&#039;s website as a bug which causes the system to crash, is that my fault? One of the number one problems I have encountered have been driver issues which are the result of companies such as NVidia with poor drivers or poor driver support in Vista. Microsoft has some hand in making the system the way they are. DLL&#039;s did not have a good reputation at one point, the registry many consider to be a mess. Microsoft is trying to clean this up, but I cannot say that the majority of the time as crash is my fault. I don&#039;t believe that, especially when I treat my computer well.</p>
<p>Mac&#039;s are for children is a statement out of no where. I don&#039;t know how to respond to that. I guess I consider myself a child at heart, but I use my Mac in a professional workspace. So do many colleagues. I think a comment such as that shows little depth and I won&#039;t respond to that any further as thats just mud slinging.</p>
<p>Again, your arguments afterwards start to be more insulting then trying to make points. You make a point about buying microsoft office. Yes, that is a standard. Many people use it. Just as on Windows many people rush off to download Adobe PDF viewer. They don&#039;t on the Mac as preview supports it. TextEdit can further open word doc&#039;s because it is so popular. I don&#039;t see much of a point here.</p>
<p>The PC Saved Apple point is sort of interesting, but I am not sure what you think you are referring to. It sounds to me like your referring to the Microsoft Apple deal. That did occur. There is quite a bit of history there and I find it interesting and invite you to research it. In one sense, one could argue Apple made Microsoft.</p>
<p>You state Mac&#039;s will always be behind PC&#039;s. You seem quite confident, Apple&#039;s market share is going up. Many companies are beginning to develop Mac Versions. I have personally never found a shortage of Applications. I have actually found the number of applications available to be growing quite rapidly. Many of the things I want, browsing the web, word processing, video are all available. Yes, even Games. World of Warcraft upon which a friend of mine plays (I invite you to check out <a href="http://www.macgamesandmore.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.macgamesandmore.com/</a> or <a href="http://www.apple.com/games/" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/games/</a> and please browse around and don&#039;t just look at the front page).</p>
<p>Anyways, I have tried to answer many of your points, but not all. I think most can be answered with a bit of research or better asked with also a bit of research. I am not saying all your points are wrong, I am just saying that you loose quite a bit of credibility when you start &#039;mud-slinging&#039; or appearing to make up stats (which you may or may not have done)</p>
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		<title>By: Claude, Denver, CO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claude, Denver, CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a longtime PC user who will probably to switch to Mac.  PCs have worked for me, but the crashing, the poor tech support, the crashing, the viruses, worms, and virus/spyware, the crashing, and the crashing have finally gotten to me.  That and the fact that the machine goes obsolete in a few years because MS has come out with YET ANOTHER new OS.



The two things that are giving me pause about switching to Mac:



1)Price/Customizability. I&#039;m sure that that if you outfit a PC with comparable specs as a Mac, you&#039;d get a similar price.  What I would miss with Mac is the ability you get with PCs (esp with Dell) to configure my laptop as I want it, meaning if I don&#039;t need oodles of RAM or hard drive space or whatever, I don&#039;t have to pay for it.  I just opt out of that and I can get it for a lower price.  Mac does not provide that option.  For me what makes the price hard to swallow is the knowledge that I don&#039;t NEED 200 GB of hard drive and yet have to pay for it anyway.



2)Docking station: Like many of you out there, I intend to use my laptop as my primary home computer, doing everything a desktop would do.  I don&#039;t like the fact that Apple has yet to (and may not ever) come out with a good docking solution. That is a serious failing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m a longtime PC user who will probably to switch to Mac.  PCs have worked for me, but the crashing, the poor tech support, the crashing, the viruses, worms, and virus/spyware, the crashing, and the crashing have finally gotten to me.  That and the fact that the machine goes obsolete in a few years because MS has come out with YET ANOTHER new OS.</p>
<p>The two things that are giving me pause about switching to Mac:</p>
<p>1)Price/Customizability. I&#039;m sure that that if you outfit a PC with comparable specs as a Mac, you&#039;d get a similar price.  What I would miss with Mac is the ability you get with PCs (esp with Dell) to configure my laptop as I want it, meaning if I don&#039;t need oodles of RAM or hard drive space or whatever, I don&#039;t have to pay for it.  I just opt out of that and I can get it for a lower price.  Mac does not provide that option.  For me what makes the price hard to swallow is the knowledge that I don&#039;t NEED 200 GB of hard drive and yet have to pay for it anyway.</p>
<p>2)Docking station: Like many of you out there, I intend to use my laptop as my primary home computer, doing everything a desktop would do.  I don&#039;t like the fact that Apple has yet to (and may not ever) come out with a good docking solution. That is a serious failing.</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Kent NY, NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark Kent NY, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that I got enough of you fools stirred up. To those who had an intelligent response, well done. To those who just like to fling dung, eat it - Techedman, Smarter than a dog, Chris, Mark, George, and Micheal. These fools don&#039;t believe in type-oo&#039;s or mistakes. Can&#039;t even come up with a good put down, how lame are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that I got enough of you fools stirred up. To those who had an intelligent response, well done. To those who just like to fling dung, eat it &#8211; Techedman, Smarter than a dog, Chris, Mark, George, and Micheal. These fools don&#039;t believe in type-oo&#039;s or mistakes. Can&#039;t even come up with a good put down, how lame are you?</p>
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