Comments on: Apple to iPhone developer: No soup for you! [update] http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/ Fortune's tech team offers analysis and perspective on the world’s most important developments. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:57:13 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: caccamucca http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9246 caccamucca Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:35:19 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9246 April Fool's Day came early this year. A BIG FISH FOR YOU. April Fool's Day came early this year.

A BIG FISH FOR YOU.

]]> By: caccamucca http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9245 caccamucca Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:07:29 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9245 PED! You got played!!! BWAHAHAHAHA PED! You got played!!!

BWAHAHAHAHA

]]> By: XamaX, Lisbon, Portugal http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9244 XamaX, Lisbon, Portugal Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:50:12 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9244 Ahah who's the joker now, Phillip? "But Philip Elmer-DeWitt believes that an ounce of skepticism never hurts when writing about the company. He should know. He's been covering Apple - and watching Steve Jobs operate - since 1982, first for Time Magazine, then for Business 2.0, and now for Fortune." - so skepticism - which Phillip's articles have none of, skepticism is rational and Phillip's articles are irrational and illogical - I was saying, so skepticism pays off? Or was it "fired off Time, hired for B2.0 a magazine that failed and now at Fortune trying to doing it yet again"? Skepticism is not bashing, not being nay-sayer, not being detrimental and biased. Then again, since 1982 Philip has had the time to get up-to-date, by now he should have dewitted himself up to the truth about Apple. I, for one, know one thing: if it says Fortune and Apple I ain't readin' it! ahah suckers Ahah who's the joker now, Phillip?

"But Philip Elmer-DeWitt believes that an ounce of skepticism never hurts when writing about the company. He should know. He's been covering Apple – and watching Steve Jobs operate – since 1982, first for Time Magazine, then for Business 2.0, and now for Fortune." – so skepticism – which Phillip's articles have none of, skepticism is rational and Phillip's articles are irrational and illogical – I was saying, so skepticism pays off? Or was it "fired off Time, hired for B2.0 a magazine that failed and now at Fortune trying to doing it yet again"?

Skepticism is not bashing, not being nay-sayer, not being detrimental and biased.

Then again, since 1982 Philip has had the time to get up-to-date, by now he should have dewitted himself up to the truth about Apple.

I, for one, know one thing: if it says Fortune and Apple I ain't readin' it! ahah suckers

]]> By: thomas a., san francisco, ca http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9232 thomas a., san francisco, ca Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:59:36 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9232 See the update to the MacRumors forum thread. Turns out this was just a fake attention-whoring stunt. Apple had nothing to do with this joker. See the update to the MacRumors forum thread.

Turns out this was just a fake attention-whoring stunt. Apple had nothing to do with this joker.

]]> By: Mathue, Dublin, CA http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9243 Mathue, Dublin, CA Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:13:37 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9243 Somehow the defined meaning of Non-Disclosure Agreement has been missed somewhere? Philip, could you grab the dictionary that 'hopefully' sits right above you on a shelf and look up the words? My suggestion, write another article with JUST the definitions. Oh, and 'AK in NYC' who thinks Apple is somehow the heaviest hand in the industry has apparently never dealt with the likes of Oracle, ES&S or nearly any group that deals with US National security. Somehow the defined meaning of Non-Disclosure Agreement has been missed somewhere? Philip, could you grab the dictionary that 'hopefully' sits right above you on a shelf and look up the words? My suggestion, write another article with JUST the definitions.

Oh, and 'AK in NYC' who thinks Apple is somehow the heaviest hand in the industry has apparently never dealt with the likes of Oracle, ES&S or nearly any group that deals with US National security.

]]> By: Tom, Cupertino, CA http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9242 Tom, Cupertino, CA Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:33:47 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9242 To claim enforcement of NDA makes relationships with third-party developers uneasy exposes the writer's complete lack of the most basic of critical software industry knowledge. In software products, intellectual rights is paramount. An idea needs to be protected. As a third-party developer, if my company were making anything for Apple, we would all be MUM, not say a word because we are protecting our product too, with our own NDA's for our employees and suppliers and contractors to sign. WHY would we break our NDA with Apple and expect anyone to respect our NDA with them? We applaud Apple's action because our legal team will do exactly the same to any of our employees, partners and suppliers and contractors if they break their NDA's with us. Grow up, be a professional, not a bunch of spoiled hacks wannabe engineers lacking any responsibility and professionalism. To claim enforcement of NDA makes relationships with third-party developers uneasy exposes the writer's complete lack of the most basic of critical software industry knowledge.

In software products, intellectual rights is paramount. An idea needs to be protected. As a third-party developer, if my company were making anything for Apple, we would all be MUM, not say a word because we are protecting our product too, with our own NDA's for our employees and suppliers and contractors to sign. WHY would we break our NDA with Apple and expect anyone to respect our NDA with them?

We applaud Apple's action because our legal team will do exactly the same to any of our employees, partners and suppliers and contractors if they break their NDA's with us.

Grow up, be a professional, not a bunch of spoiled hacks wannabe engineers lacking any responsibility and professionalism.

]]> By: Tom, Cupertino, CA http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9241 Tom, Cupertino, CA Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:15:16 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9241 Non-disclosure is non-disclosure. If you have seen the document and have signed as many as I have, you will know that "MUM" is the word. In many cases, we cannot even say we are working on anything and the only legal statement to make is "No comment". It is simple professionalism. If this person had invented new product or working on new invention, I am sure he would not want anyone to spill his secrets so other companies can steal such ideas. This developer seems inexperienced or simply did not care, so he paid. Let this be an example to everyone who thinks those documents are just papers to be signed and forgotten. Non-disclosure is non-disclosure. If you have seen the document and have signed as many as I have, you will know that "MUM" is the word. In many cases, we cannot even say we are working on anything and the only legal statement to make is "No comment". It is simple professionalism.

If this person had invented new product or working on new invention, I am sure he would not want anyone to spill his secrets so other companies can steal such ideas.

This developer seems inexperienced or simply did not care, so he paid. Let this be an example to everyone who thinks those documents are just papers to be signed and forgotten.

]]> By: John, Columbia, SC http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9239 John, Columbia, SC Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:00:34 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9239 anyone defending this idiotic developer is clearly an Apple-basher unless they somehow have access to the NDA he signed and has read the entire thing. otherwise, you haters are just spouting off about things you know less than nothing about. but don't let anything as inconsequential as FACTS get in the way of a good rant. and to the moron who said they couldn't wait until Apple is dead...i'd lay big odds you go LONG before they do. anyone defending this idiotic developer is clearly an Apple-basher unless they somehow have access to the NDA he signed and has read the entire thing. otherwise, you haters are just spouting off about things you know less than nothing about. but don't let anything as inconsequential as FACTS get in the way of a good rant.

and to the moron who said they couldn't wait until Apple is dead…i'd lay big odds you go LONG before they do.

]]> By: Bob, Richmond VA http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9240 Bob, Richmond VA Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:32:29 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9240 DeWitt, you're insufferable and exhausting. Not to mention untalented. DeWitt, you're insufferable and exhausting. Not to mention untalented.

]]> By: Tom E, Huntsville. AL http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/02/17/apple-to-iphone-developer-no-soup-for-you/#comment-9238 Tom E, Huntsville. AL Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:39:23 +0000 http://fortuneapple20.wordpress.com/?p=334#comment-9238 terrible "journalism" Fortune. You should be ashamed! terrible "journalism" Fortune. You should be ashamed!

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