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	<title>Comments on: NBC pulls its TV shows from Apple iTunes</title>
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		<title>By: Brad Smith - DVD Distributor Manager</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Smith - DVD Distributor Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may sound a bit off topic, but you can now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dvd-distributor.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sell your cds online&lt;/a&gt; using your own PayPal account and a simple website.



This is sure to bring in the little guys who need a hand to get into the music industry.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may sound a bit off topic, but you can now <a href="http://www.dvd-distributor.com" rel="nofollow">sell your cds online</a> using your own PayPal account and a simple website.</p>
<p>This is sure to bring in the little guys who need a hand to get into the music industry.</p>
<p>Brad Smith</p>
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		<title>By: constantcomlainer, Los Angeles, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>constantcomlainer, Los Angeles, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 04:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$5 is a bit pricey, considering I can DVR stuff i miss or rent shows from netflix I can&#039;t get on my cable package. (I&#039;ve got the $4.99 plan). It&#039;s not customer-centric. If pay $5 to download a   TV show, I think it&#039;s only fair that I should be able to copy it to a DVD so I can watch it on my big screen or at least take it with me, or let someone borrow it. That&#039;s the thing about iTunes, including the movies. you can&#039;t really loan them out or swap with friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$5 is a bit pricey, considering I can DVR stuff i miss or rent shows from netflix I can&#039;t get on my cable package. (I&#039;ve got the $4.99 plan). It&#039;s not customer-centric. If pay $5 to download a   TV show, I think it&#039;s only fair that I should be able to copy it to a DVD so I can watch it on my big screen or at least take it with me, or let someone borrow it. That&#039;s the thing about iTunes, including the movies. you can&#039;t really loan them out or swap with friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Palo Alto, California</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/12/03/nbc-pulls-its-tv-shows-from-apple-itunes/#comment-7612</link>
		<dc:creator>Palo Alto, California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NBC is clueless! Absolutely clueless. They have an increased likelihood of getting their programming to more people using the iTunes vehicle. I buy more TV on iTuens than ever, because I want to watch what I want, when I want and without all the damned commercials. Every year, I end p buying more and more shows. The problem is that NBC wants to control what you watch and how much you pay and what they want you to pay isn&#039;t fair to consumers and that&#039;s basically what Apple told them.  So NBC decides to screw the consumer by removing everything because they want to end the contract. Who looses? We do. Wake up NBC. Fire Jeff Zucker and get yourselves a real executive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBC is clueless! Absolutely clueless. They have an increased likelihood of getting their programming to more people using the iTunes vehicle. I buy more TV on iTuens than ever, because I want to watch what I want, when I want and without all the damned commercials. Every year, I end p buying more and more shows. The problem is that NBC wants to control what you watch and how much you pay and what they want you to pay isn&#039;t fair to consumers and that&#039;s basically what Apple told them.  So NBC decides to screw the consumer by removing everything because they want to end the contract. Who looses? We do. Wake up NBC. Fire Jeff Zucker and get yourselves a real executive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon, Grand Rapids Mi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon, Grand Rapids Mi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I don&#039;t get it. There are 25 episodes in a season X $1.99=$49 and change. They sell the seasons on their (NBC) web sight for $40. Out of that $40 they production costs of the dvds and distribution costs. So I guess I fail to see the logic behind NBC decision except they wanted to rape their public at $4.99 thats $125 a season. Yeah Right!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I don&#039;t get it. There are 25 episodes in a season X $1.99=$49 and change. They sell the seasons on their (NBC) web sight for $40. Out of that $40 they production costs of the dvds and distribution costs. So I guess I fail to see the logic behind NBC decision except they wanted to rape their public at $4.99 thats $125 a season. Yeah Right!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben, Springfield, MO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben, Springfield, MO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing to see how many people miss the point . . . good thing you aren&#039;t in charge of marketing, ARE YOU?  (1)Apple will  not have content to sell (never), (2)people are willing to watch commercial filled shows for free (not), (3)iPhone revenue sharing model should be applied to NBC (LOL).  Do you guys have an ipod, iphone, or even walked into a Mac store?  Why do people buy a cadillac, a jaguar, or a corvette?  I seriously doubt they are worried about who put in the seats or the stearing wheel or the floor mats - THEY CAN FIND THOSE ANYWHERE!  Same thing with the ipods and the iphones.  (1)Its about prestige and peer groups and fitting in - group psychology.  (2)Its about being in control of what you want to watch, when  you want to watch it without having to sit through Pepsi commericials. And finally (3) Its about switching costs.  If you own an iPhone, then how many other similar options do you have - of the same caliber -absolutely zero!  If you watch NBC shows, then how many similar options do you have - endless!



I just wish everyone in all areas of consumer products could offer the innovation of Apple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing to see how many people miss the point . . . good thing you aren&#039;t in charge of marketing, ARE YOU?  (1)Apple will  not have content to sell (never), (2)people are willing to watch commercial filled shows for free (not), (3)iPhone revenue sharing model should be applied to NBC (LOL).  Do you guys have an ipod, iphone, or even walked into a Mac store?  Why do people buy a cadillac, a jaguar, or a corvette?  I seriously doubt they are worried about who put in the seats or the stearing wheel or the floor mats &#8211; THEY CAN FIND THOSE ANYWHERE!  Same thing with the ipods and the iphones.  (1)Its about prestige and peer groups and fitting in &#8211; group psychology.  (2)Its about being in control of what you want to watch, when  you want to watch it without having to sit through Pepsi commericials. And finally (3) Its about switching costs.  If you own an iPhone, then how many other similar options do you have &#8211; of the same caliber -absolutely zero!  If you watch NBC shows, then how many similar options do you have &#8211; endless!</p>
<p>I just wish everyone in all areas of consumer products could offer the innovation of Apple!</p>
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		<title>By: spellchecker, New York, NY</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/12/03/nbc-pulls-its-tv-shows-from-apple-itunes/#comment-7609</link>
		<dc:creator>spellchecker, New York, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can’t be the only NBC shareholder out there who ones multiple iPods &quot;



no, but you may be the only shareholder who spells &quot;owns&quot; o-n-e-s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;I can’t be the only NBC shareholder out there who ones multiple iPods &#034;</p>
<p>no, but you may be the only shareholder who spells &#034;owns&#034; o-n-e-s.</p>
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		<title>By: ballmer, Redmond WA.</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/12/03/nbc-pulls-its-tv-shows-from-apple-itunes/#comment-7608</link>
		<dc:creator>ballmer, Redmond WA.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NBC is on the right track now Baby!

http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NBC is on the right track now Baby!</p>
<p><a href="http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dr. B. Heart MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. B. Heart MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;b&gt;NBC move is inherently dumb, and was made by someone &#039;stuck on stupid&quot;! As a NBC share holder I do not support this decision. I can&#039;t be the only NBC shareholder out there who ones multiple iPods &lt;i&gt;(there are 22 in my extended family alone) who wish to watch the network in which I have invested content on those iPods. But then maybe I&#039;m the one stuck on stupid as I should have bought more apple stock than I have NDC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <b>NBC move is inherently dumb, and was made by someone &#039;stuck on stupid&#034;! As a NBC share holder I do not support this decision. I can&#039;t be the only NBC shareholder out there who ones multiple iPods <i>(there are 22 in my extended family alone) who wish to watch the network in which I have invested content on those iPods. But then maybe I&#039;m the one stuck on stupid as I should have bought more apple stock than I have NDC!</i></b></p>
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		<title>By: reese, pasadena ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>reese, pasadena ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Apple and WalMart do not sell products of their own&lt;/b&gt;



i guess you think computers, servers, software + osx, itunes, quicktime + codec (H.264), firewire (IEEE 1394), ipods &amp; iphones aren&#039;t products.



&lt;b&gt;What happens to iTunes when AAPL has no content to sell. Like it or not AAPL is a distributor here with no content of its own. &lt;/b&gt;



according to the SEC Form 4 (05.05.06), JOBS STEVEN P  is the largest shareholder in DISNEY (DIS) with 138,000,007 shares. a little company you might have heard of that just owns one of the largest content libraries + ABC, A&amp;E, ESPN, Walt DIsney Pictures, Touchstone, Pixar, &amp; Miramax.

other content that doesn&#039;t involve the networks or studios are podcasts &amp; audio books which have been making consistent gains as content for ipods year after year.



&lt;b&gt;Jobs may want to learn some partnering skills - they’ll come in handy when AAPL inevitably stumbles and needs the revenues.&lt;/b&gt;



partnering skills maybe, or you could just control the company.

&lt;b&gt;AAPL S&amp;P stock report 12.01.07

5 yr total return = 2251%

5 yr return on $10k = $235,123&lt;/b&gt;



with The Daily Show, CBS &amp; Southpark shows online &amp; free via their own sites coupled with Netflix for full season DVD rentals of most popular shows, who is really going to pay the $4-5 zucker thinks people will pay for content? jobs rightly objected to zucker&#039;s idea of content bundling. that is to sell bundled shows at a higher price. the OFFICE is a popular download, so bundle it with that boxoffice turd EVAN ALMIGHTY just because they both shows star steve carell. it&#039;s a stupid idea &amp; jobs knew it. what consistently kills other content startups is confusing pricing scemes (napster) and proprietary or cumbersome codecs/encoding or hardware agendas (sony connect). sony connect ranked 23rd before finally shutting down.



apple designs the whole experience to work seamlessly at a great price - from the codec, to the store, to the player. do you really think having  a hodgepodge of several different companies, each controlling their segment from encoding to market to player would be a better solution? it has been tried too often &amp; always fails because of the separate greed of each of the components.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Apple and WalMart do not sell products of their own</b></p>
<p>i guess you think computers, servers, software + osx, itunes, quicktime + codec (H.264), firewire (IEEE 1394), ipods &amp; iphones aren&#039;t products.</p>
<p><b>What happens to iTunes when AAPL has no content to sell. Like it or not AAPL is a distributor here with no content of its own. </b></p>
<p>according to the SEC Form 4 (05.05.06), JOBS STEVEN P  is the largest shareholder in DISNEY (DIS) with 138,000,007 shares. a little company you might have heard of that just owns one of the largest content libraries + ABC, A&amp;E, ESPN, Walt DIsney Pictures, Touchstone, Pixar, &amp; Miramax.</p>
<p>other content that doesn&#039;t involve the networks or studios are podcasts &amp; audio books which have been making consistent gains as content for ipods year after year.</p>
<p><b>Jobs may want to learn some partnering skills &#8211; they’ll come in handy when AAPL inevitably stumbles and needs the revenues.</b></p>
<p>partnering skills maybe, or you could just control the company.</p>
<p><b>AAPL S&amp;P stock report 12.01.07</p>
<p>5 yr total return = 2251%</p>
<p>5 yr return on $10k = $235,123</b></p>
<p>with The Daily Show, CBS &amp; Southpark shows online &amp; free via their own sites coupled with Netflix for full season DVD rentals of most popular shows, who is really going to pay the $4-5 zucker thinks people will pay for content? jobs rightly objected to zucker&#039;s idea of content bundling. that is to sell bundled shows at a higher price. the OFFICE is a popular download, so bundle it with that boxoffice turd EVAN ALMIGHTY just because they both shows star steve carell. it&#039;s a stupid idea &amp; jobs knew it. what consistently kills other content startups is confusing pricing scemes (napster) and proprietary or cumbersome codecs/encoding or hardware agendas (sony connect). sony connect ranked 23rd before finally shutting down.</p>
<p>apple designs the whole experience to work seamlessly at a great price &#8211; from the codec, to the store, to the player. do you really think having  a hodgepodge of several different companies, each controlling their segment from encoding to market to player would be a better solution? it has been tried too often &amp; always fails because of the separate greed of each of the components.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian, Charleston, WV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian, Charleston, WV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If NBC thinks people will flock away from iTunes to Amazon (HAHAHA), NBC Online, or some Huhu.com site, they are crazy.  Consumers are dedicated to the distribution channel just as much (if not more) than the content.



This is not television, where switching your distribution channel is a button on the remote, and switching back is pushing another button.



This is a software application - people learn it, customize it, tweak it, and become comfortable with how it interacts.  They become proficient and like the flow of it.  They become adept at using it quickly, and it stops being a program for putting media on their device and starts being an integrated tool in their daily computer use.



Apple has done a supreme job at tying a device to an application - most of the consumer base has no idea you can use anything BUT iTunes with your iPod, and even if they could, why would they want to?  Apple mastered the market on the intuitive interface long ago, and so far nobody is touching them.  Look at the iPhone...  years of producing phones from companies like Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, LG, etc...  and in walks Apple at the last minute with hands-down the cleanest, most seamless phone OS ever built.  They tip-toed in on the ROKR and realized there was no way a partnership would work because the other player was too dumb to listen, so they would go it alone.  Result?  By far the most hyped and demanded cellular phone ever created.  Others can only WISH they could pull that off on their second go at a cell phone.



Thus far, Apple has managed to find ways to stave off the juggernaut (M$) and actually grow market share.  Not easy for a company with less than 10% to start with.  On the flipside, NBC, a company who has only consistently LOST market share, shows that it fully intends to continue that loss.  I would wager that the current users of iTunes are also the users most probable of paying for content - and NBC just walked away from the lot of them to bet on who?  People who would defect from iTunes for NBC Content, iTunes haters, and Pirates.



Good luck with that strategy NBC, if you want to know how it will turn out,  give me a call on my iPhone after it gets done syncing with my iTunes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If NBC thinks people will flock away from iTunes to Amazon (HAHAHA), NBC Online, or some Huhu.com site, they are crazy.  Consumers are dedicated to the distribution channel just as much (if not more) than the content.</p>
<p>This is not television, where switching your distribution channel is a button on the remote, and switching back is pushing another button.</p>
<p>This is a software application &#8211; people learn it, customize it, tweak it, and become comfortable with how it interacts.  They become proficient and like the flow of it.  They become adept at using it quickly, and it stops being a program for putting media on their device and starts being an integrated tool in their daily computer use.</p>
<p>Apple has done a supreme job at tying a device to an application &#8211; most of the consumer base has no idea you can use anything BUT iTunes with your iPod, and even if they could, why would they want to?  Apple mastered the market on the intuitive interface long ago, and so far nobody is touching them.  Look at the iPhone&#8230;  years of producing phones from companies like Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, LG, etc&#8230;  and in walks Apple at the last minute with hands-down the cleanest, most seamless phone OS ever built.  They tip-toed in on the ROKR and realized there was no way a partnership would work because the other player was too dumb to listen, so they would go it alone.  Result?  By far the most hyped and demanded cellular phone ever created.  Others can only WISH they could pull that off on their second go at a cell phone.</p>
<p>Thus far, Apple has managed to find ways to stave off the juggernaut (M$) and actually grow market share.  Not easy for a company with less than 10% to start with.  On the flipside, NBC, a company who has only consistently LOST market share, shows that it fully intends to continue that loss.  I would wager that the current users of iTunes are also the users most probable of paying for content &#8211; and NBC just walked away from the lot of them to bet on who?  People who would defect from iTunes for NBC Content, iTunes haters, and Pirates.</p>
<p>Good luck with that strategy NBC, if you want to know how it will turn out,  give me a call on my iPhone after it gets done syncing with my iTunes.</p>
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