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	<title>Comments on: China Mobile iPhone talks in question</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Charanis, Atlanta, GA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7494</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Charanis, Atlanta, GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its apparently stalled. I&#039;m surprised Apple could let this happen, the market is enormous and they want it.

I have to agree with Charanis Chiu - Hong Kong first. I also have to agree with him because, well, he has a cool name.

More comments here:

www.i-rant.org

Charanis - if you read this please get in touch with me there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its apparently stalled. I&#039;m surprised Apple could let this happen, the market is enormous and they want it.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Charanis Chiu &#8211; Hong Kong first. I also have to agree with him because, well, he has a cool name.</p>
<p>More comments here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.i-rant.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.i-rant.org</a></p>
<p>Charanis &#8211; if you read this please get in touch with me there.</p>
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		<title>By: charanis chiu, Hong Kong</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7493</link>
		<dc:creator>charanis chiu, Hong Kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We may also recommend that APPLE CEO to negotiate with China Telecommunication companies to let Apple iPhone sales in Hong Kong at the very beginning to see how the system work properly.



Since most of the China big companies also launch their stocks through Hong Kong stock exchange to Worldwide markets.



Hong Kong could be the suitable place for Apple to first launch their iPhone before moving into Mainland China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may also recommend that APPLE CEO to negotiate with China Telecommunication companies to let Apple iPhone sales in Hong Kong at the very beginning to see how the system work properly.</p>
<p>Since most of the China big companies also launch their stocks through Hong Kong stock exchange to Worldwide markets.</p>
<p>Hong Kong could be the suitable place for Apple to first launch their iPhone before moving into Mainland China.</p>
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		<title>By: Charanischiu, Hong Kong</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7492</link>
		<dc:creator>Charanischiu, Hong Kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We suggest APPLE to open shops in major cities like Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Cheungdu, Sheungzhen etc. to sell not only iPhone but all others computer products, similar to what APPLE is now doing in USA, Europe and coming to the huge market in Asia.



People can either buy unlock iPhone from APPLE shops and join any of the three telecommunication companies such as CHINA MOBILE, CHINA UNICOM, CHINA TELECOM which ever favorable to their area network, or buy the iPhone through  the above mentioned telecommunication companies with 2 or 3 years service plan.



China would unlikely to see  telecommunication companies to compete each other, they prefer evenly grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We suggest APPLE to open shops in major cities like Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Cheungdu, Sheungzhen etc. to sell not only iPhone but all others computer products, similar to what APPLE is now doing in USA, Europe and coming to the huge market in Asia.</p>
<p>People can either buy unlock iPhone from APPLE shops and join any of the three telecommunication companies such as CHINA MOBILE, CHINA UNICOM, CHINA TELECOM which ever favorable to their area network, or buy the iPhone through  the above mentioned telecommunication companies with 2 or 3 years service plan.</p>
<p>China would unlikely to see  telecommunication companies to compete each other, they prefer evenly grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Blah Dee Blah Dah, Armonk, NY</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7491</link>
		<dc:creator>Oh Blah Dee Blah Dah, Armonk, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s China UNICOM, symbol CHU, and NOT China UNICORN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s China UNICOM, symbol CHU, and NOT China UNICORN.</p>
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		<title>By: charanis chiu, Hong Kong</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7490</link>
		<dc:creator>charanis chiu, Hong Kong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We sincerely hope that APPLE CEO will continuously open discussion with Chinese Telecommunication Authorities to finally achieve an agreement to officially bring in the advance iPhone to Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau as well as Taiwan.

We definitely looking forward to purchase the officially launch iPhone as early as in 2008 in either 2.5G or 3G or even 3.5G model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We sincerely hope that APPLE CEO will continuously open discussion with Chinese Telecommunication Authorities to finally achieve an agreement to officially bring in the advance iPhone to Mainland China, Hong Kong, Macau as well as Taiwan.</p>
<p>We definitely looking forward to purchase the officially launch iPhone as early as in 2008 in either 2.5G or 3G or even 3.5G model.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles, New York, NY</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7489</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles, New York, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhone is the greatest cell phone in the world or even the greatest electronic product ever in the history. We love iPhone. iPhone will be available in China soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone is the greatest cell phone in the world or even the greatest electronic product ever in the history. We love iPhone. iPhone will be available in China soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommo_UK, London, UK</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7488</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommo_UK, London, UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philip, maybe that was a bit harsh of me. I should have directed my unhappiness towards Fortune&#039;s editor given the recent FUD your masters have been publishing about Apple. Sorry.



However, if not &quot;behind the curve,&quot; then I have to say there&#039;s definitely a tendency for your column to focus on the more FUDtastic Apple news out there, and rarely on anything positive. Its a shame there seems to be a &quot;good news is no news&quot; policy at Fortune WRT Apple.



I know you&#039;re trying to make a point of delivering news from &quot;outside the reality distortion field,&quot; but you&#039;re also in danger of creating a distorted impression of the newsflow by trying too hard to avoid being seen as an Apple-loving blog.



Hard balance to strike, I appreciate, but one worth striving for in such a widely-read publication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, maybe that was a bit harsh of me. I should have directed my unhappiness towards Fortune&#039;s editor given the recent FUD your masters have been publishing about Apple. Sorry.</p>
<p>However, if not &#034;behind the curve,&#034; then I have to say there&#039;s definitely a tendency for your column to focus on the more FUDtastic Apple news out there, and rarely on anything positive. Its a shame there seems to be a &#034;good news is no news&#034; policy at Fortune WRT Apple.</p>
<p>I know you&#039;re trying to make a point of delivering news from &#034;outside the reality distortion field,&#034; but you&#039;re also in danger of creating a distorted impression of the newsflow by trying too hard to avoid being seen as an Apple-loving blog.</p>
<p>Hard balance to strike, I appreciate, but one worth striving for in such a widely-read publication.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Smooth, Seattle, WA</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7487</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Smooth, Seattle, WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple’s iPhone is too expensive for the Chinese market, and it is also too secluded from the mainstream media world. I think Google’s alternative will be more appeal to the Chinese penchant for thriftiness. The Gphone will make all media more ubiquitous, and how that ubiquity will impact company profits.  That can benefit both consumers and investors.  The NewsVisual article on Google’s Open Handset Alliance http://www.newsvisual.com/newsvisual/2007/11/google-and-moto.html  implies that it’s really personal connections among business leaders that determine future success in the competitive marketplace.  But consumers can also benefit from the new products those alliances spawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple’s iPhone is too expensive for the Chinese market, and it is also too secluded from the mainstream media world. I think Google’s alternative will be more appeal to the Chinese penchant for thriftiness. The Gphone will make all media more ubiquitous, and how that ubiquity will impact company profits.  That can benefit both consumers and investors.  The NewsVisual article on Google’s Open Handset Alliance <a href="http://www.newsvisual.com/newsvisual/2007/11/google-and-moto.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsvisual.com/newsvisual/2007/11/google-and-moto.html</a>  implies that it’s really personal connections among business leaders that determine future success in the competitive marketplace.  But consumers can also benefit from the new products those alliances spawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom, Portland OR</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7486</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom, Portland OR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose you didn&#039;t see the article in Bloomberg that contradicts your article.  Or, maybe since it came out before yours, you just decided to ignore it.  See below:



Apple Inc. (AAPL US) added $3.25, or 1.8 percent, to $187.54 in trading before the official open of U.S. exchanges. China Mobile Ltd. (CHL US), the world&#039;s largest wireless-phone operator by subscribers, said it is still in discussions to offer Apple&#039;s iPhone handset, denying a newspaper report that talks between the two companies have ended.



Phillip, what has happened to you?  From what I can tell, you were once an accomplished journalist, but now you have resorted to your daily rants and misrepresentations about Apple.  Sad, very sad.



ex ped: Appreciate your concern for my career. As it happens, the Bloomberg report came out after mine was written, but before it was posted, due to circumstances beyond my control. Item updated with the latest news. --Philip Elmer-DeWitt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose you didn&#039;t see the article in Bloomberg that contradicts your article.  Or, maybe since it came out before yours, you just decided to ignore it.  See below:</p>
<p>Apple Inc. (AAPL US) added $3.25, or 1.8 percent, to $187.54 in trading before the official open of U.S. exchanges. China Mobile Ltd. (CHL US), the world&#039;s largest wireless-phone operator by subscribers, said it is still in discussions to offer Apple&#039;s iPhone handset, denying a newspaper report that talks between the two companies have ended.</p>
<p>Phillip, what has happened to you?  From what I can tell, you were once an accomplished journalist, but now you have resorted to your daily rants and misrepresentations about Apple.  Sad, very sad.</p>
<p>ex ped: Appreciate your concern for my career. As it happens, the Bloomberg report came out after mine was written, but before it was posted, due to circumstances beyond my control. Item updated with the latest news. &#8211;Philip Elmer-DeWitt.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommo_UK, London, UK</title>
		<link>http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/11/30/report-china-mobile-iphone-talks-fail/#comment-7485</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommo_UK, London, UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 14:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As so often, this column is behind the curve:



From Bloomberg:

Apple Inc., the maker of the iPod music plaver, increased $3.54 to $187.83. China Mobile Ltd., the world&#039;s largest wireless-phone operator by subscribers, said it is still in discussions to offer Apple&#039;s iPhone handset, denying a newspaper report that talks between the two companies have ended.



ex ped: &quot;As so often&quot;? That&#039;s a pretty wild swing for you, Tommo. As it happens my piece was filed well before the Bloomberg report. It&#039;s been updated now. --Philip Elmer-DeWitt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As so often, this column is behind the curve:</p>
<p>From Bloomberg:</p>
<p>Apple Inc., the maker of the iPod music plaver, increased $3.54 to $187.83. China Mobile Ltd., the world&#039;s largest wireless-phone operator by subscribers, said it is still in discussions to offer Apple&#039;s iPhone handset, denying a newspaper report that talks between the two companies have ended.</p>
<p>ex ped: &#034;As so often&#034;? That&#039;s a pretty wild swing for you, Tommo. As it happens my piece was filed well before the Bloomberg report. It&#039;s been updated now. &#8211;Philip Elmer-DeWitt</p>
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